The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness
Latest Article

The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
More Recent Articles
Contrast Training for Size
By: Lee Boyce
An Interview with Marianne Kane of Girls Gone Strong
By: Jordan Syatt
What Supplements Should I be Taking? By: Jay Wainwright
Bench Like a Girl By: Julia Ladewski
Some Thoughts on Building a Big Pull By: Christopher Mason

Facebook Join Facebook Group       Twitter Follow on Twitter       rss Subscribe via RSS
Results 1 to 10 of 10
  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Posts
    710

    is it better not to do cardio while on a ckd?

    I have heard while on a ckd (or any other diet) cardio is bad, because of the catabolic effects. Many people say that you shouldnt do cardio, period if you are a bodybuilder, fat loss is best achieved through the diet (assuming you want to retain muscle).

    What do you guys think? If I want to burn fat and retain muscle (the same thing everyone on a ckd wants to do) should I do cardio on Wed and Thu (bodyopus) or just skip the cardio? Are the fat burning effects really worth the muscle I will lose?

    Thanks
    my other favorite forum! Check it out!

    http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/

  2.    Support Wannabebig and use AtLarge Nutrition Supplements!


  3. #2
    Senior Member InferiorDesign's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Posts
    625
    franco columbo ran all the time, he was pretty big. ( i read his book) i have to do some cardio, i.e. riding my bike 2 miles, cause i dont have a car, its the only way to get to the gym. do some cardio, but medium-light cardio

  4. #3
    Proud Father Maki Riddington's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Vancouver, B.C.
    Posts
    5,323
    Franco also used steroids.
    Let the diet do the work.
    Maki Fit Blog

    At Large: Optimize Your Body | Dynamic Conditioning |
    My articles on Wannabebig

    "Soli Deo Gloria"
    "Test all things; hold fast what is good.": 1 Thessalonians 5:21

    "I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do--this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
    So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God's law; but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God--through Jesus Christ our Lord!"
    Romans 7:14-25

    "Judo is not about strength. Yet in the learning curve, all Judokas get strong. Only with time do you learn where to apply that strength."
    The Art of Judo

  5. #4
    Ex-Mod Jane's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Yale
    Posts
    3,747
    Really Maki? No cardio? It should help with getting back into ketosis though, shouldn't it?

    Then again, it might not make THAT much of a difference...
    "Then on leg day do squats, lunges, stiff legged deadlifts, fluffernutters, and calf raises."--Belial, training a newbie

    PowermanDL on Russian culture: "Big furry hats come into play somewhere."

    "The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value. I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." --Thomas Paine

  6. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    east coast
    Posts
    78
    cardio on a ckd wont do much harm if you dont abuse it. its also good for the heart.

  7. #6
    Ex-Mod Jane's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Yale
    Posts
    3,747
    Originally posted by jdelaware
    cardio on a ckd wont do much harm if you dont abuse it.
    Ok, but will it do a lot of good?
    "Then on leg day do squats, lunges, stiff legged deadlifts, fluffernutters, and calf raises."--Belial, training a newbie

    PowermanDL on Russian culture: "Big furry hats come into play somewhere."

    "The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value. I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." --Thomas Paine

  8. #7
    Proud Father Maki Riddington's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Vancouver, B.C.
    Posts
    5,323
    Originally posted by Jane
    Really Maki? No cardio? It should help with getting back into ketosis though, shouldn't it?

    Then again, it might not make THAT much of a difference...
    *** If you simply change your ratios then you won't have to use cardio as a means to get yourself back into ketosis. Also if your workout is intense enough you won't have to use cardio. Since the workout will be depleting your stores enough you'll be pushed back into ketosis.

    But yes, your right when you say cardio can be useful.
    My philosophy is to let the diet do its work and add in cardio and or other things to speed up the process when your results are stagnating.
    Maki Fit Blog

    At Large: Optimize Your Body | Dynamic Conditioning |
    My articles on Wannabebig

    "Soli Deo Gloria"
    "Test all things; hold fast what is good.": 1 Thessalonians 5:21

    "I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do--this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
    So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God's law; but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God--through Jesus Christ our Lord!"
    Romans 7:14-25

    "Judo is not about strength. Yet in the learning curve, all Judokas get strong. Only with time do you learn where to apply that strength."
    The Art of Judo

  9. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    east coast
    Posts
    78
    in my opinion it would. like maki said it would speed things up a bit. for me id rather use a little cardio to get me into ketosis than upping my fat to protein ratio. tried it twice and it just made me sick.

  10. #9
    Ex-Mod Jane's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Yale
    Posts
    3,747
    jdelaware...out of curiosity/comparison. what is your height/weight/body fat and what do your macros look like throughout the week? I just try to get about 30% calories from protein and 70% from fat and stay at 500 below maintenance.
    Last edited by Jane; 04-27-2002 at 07:11 PM.
    "Then on leg day do squats, lunges, stiff legged deadlifts, fluffernutters, and calf raises."--Belial, training a newbie

    PowermanDL on Russian culture: "Big furry hats come into play somewhere."

    "The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value. I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." --Thomas Paine

  11. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    east coast
    Posts
    78
    im 5' 10 200pnds, i try to take in about 75% fat and 25% pro. im at 2000 cals right now.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •