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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    How does my Back routine look. Comments please

    Hey. How does this back routine look. Comments please.

    dead lifts---4 sets
    Bent over rows---4 sets
    Lat pull down---4 sets
    Seated cable row---3 sets

    Does this look good. Is it enuf lower back work.

    But in general how does it look.

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    IMO, volume is high. I'd get rid of the seated rows. To me, once you've done 12 good sets of back correctly, you shouldn't be able to do anymore.
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    Looks OK to me.

    Set count might be a little high, but it isn't unmanageable.
    Squats work better than supplements.
    "You know, if I thought like that, I'd never put more than one plate on the bar for anything, I'd never use bands or chains, I'd never squat to parallel or below, and I'd never let out the slightest grunt when I lift. At some point in your lifting career (assuming you're planning on getting reasonably strong and big), you're going to have to accept that most people think you are some kind of freak." -Sensei
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    I would also recommend getting rid of one of the rowing motions. Deadlifts are by far, enough lower back work.
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    OK

    So if i take out the Seated cable rows, would it be better.

    Will i have enuf back work if i take out the seated cable rows.


    Thanx guys

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    Re: OK

    Originally posted by KenShamrock
    So if i take out the Seated cable rows, would it be better.

    Will i have enuf back work if i take out the seated cable rows.


    Thanx guys
    Yes, you will, long as you do those first three with higher wieght and intensity. ........quality over quantity my friend.
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    Hey man

    This will sound retarded but what is intensity, like as many reps as you can. i just never knew what it was...
    HAHA

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    If you do less volume you should be able to lift more weight.
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    Re: Hey man

    Originally posted by KenShamrock
    This will sound retarded but what is intensity, like as many reps as you can. i just never knew what it was...
    HAHA
    That's part of it. IMO, any weight you can lift more than ten times is too light. My normal lifts are rep ranges of 10, 8, and 6, sometimes 4. For real intensity, your eyes should be popping out of your head to get those last two reps on the last set. It means going to REAL failure.
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    Yes, but you can go to failure while still being pretty sloppy. Intensity would require control during both the concentric and eccentric portions of the lift. The load would not be given to momentum. So within the constraints of good form, you work with the heaviest weight possible without such sacrifices, and you work to failure or depending on what type of lift (push/pull) beyond failure http://www.wannabebigforums.com/show...d&pagenumber=7
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    If I were you, I will cut the Bent Over Rows and Pulldowns into 2-3 sets, and at the end of the routine do 1 set of Chin ups to failure.
    Change is good.

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    I'd cut out the cable rows and do chins instead of pull downs.

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    the volume is high but its not really gonna hurt you as long as u give ample recovery time. i grow on that much volume but i dont waste sets. each set is done with focus and intensity


    subsitute your pulldowns for 50 reps of chins or pullups.

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    I agree with gymtime, unless you're taking some serious test or giving yourself enough time to rest (I train 1 body part per week), you're doing too many sets. I would do this instead (and this is damn close to my weekly back workout)

    dead lifts---4 sets
    Bent over rows---3 sets
    Lat pull down---2 sets
    Seated cable row---2 sets

    Deads are great to start off with since they take a lot from you, same as squats.

    SAF

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