hey Hopp, i pulled it conv. since i put gear back on it has really dropped back down. i guess the heavier weights are beating my cns up worse than i thought. so now i was playing around with a few things. may try sumo next few weeks but with briefs and canvas suit on. dead has me back in panic mode. all of the sumo pulls felt great until the 615. with the 615 i'm searching for the last bit of the pull. the transition part from over knee to lockout. i will mess with sumo for 3 more weeks to see how it goes. then if not happy will switch back to conv. I'm hoping other 2 lifts go well at meet and I can hit total i want with opener on dead.