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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Which Squat Suit Everyone?

    I am thinking the Metal Ace, my weakness is staying tight in the hole and coming out of the hole.
    I have no problem at the top and finish fast.

    Will the Ace suit me best or would canvas be better?

    Also I will need to be able to put this suit on by myself most days.

    Thank you very much.
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    Do you have any experience squatting in gear?

    As far as getting it on/off by yourself, just make sure you don't get it super tight. If either of those suits is tight it's gonna be hell to remove by yourself.
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    I suggest the new Inzer Z Suit with the patented Z lock leg openings. O.D. Wilson squatted 1000 in one.
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    Squatting alone in gear is about as good an idea as benching in a shirt alone.

    Getting one that's big enough to get on yourself isn't going to give you near the carryover you're going to want out of the suit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenDD View Post
    I suggest the new Inzer Z Suit with the patented Z lock leg openings. O.D. Wilson squatted 1000 in one.
    I would suggest the upgrade to the Champion, myself.


    The Ace is a good suit, I have used one for years and havn't had any problems. The material does see to stretch out a fair amount though, it never effected me because I just moved up in weight classes at the same rate. I wore the same suit from 198 to 242 and it always fit correctly.

    The pop out of the hole with the ace is great. It is harder to use then the PRO suit, but not really all that much different. I would make sure you have a good 5-6 sessions in it before you even think about competing in it.
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    Also if you are training alone, the Ace goes on/off pretty easily, far easier then a canvas from what I have seen. If you hang from something, you can slide into the suit. Getting it off you can roll the suit over itself (unlike canvas) so that will never be all that much of a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bell View Post
    Squatting alone in gear is about as good an idea as benching in a shirt alone.
    I have nearly always had to Squat alone, I just set the pins in the rack.

    Yeah I see your point about the gear not giving as much carry-over if not tight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SELK View Post
    Also if you are training alone, the Ace goes on/off pretty easily, far easier then a canvas from what I have seen. If you hang from something, you can slide into the suit. Getting it off you can roll the suit over itself (unlike canvas) so that will never be all that much of a problem.
    Ok thanks for that, sounds like the Ace is the better option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenDD View Post
    I suggest the new Inzer Z Suit with the patented Z lock leg openings. O.D. Wilson squatted 1000 in one.
    Is that what your using? Ha
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    I have briefs and wraps only.

    I have never had a coach and have to teach myself with the help I have got from some great people in the U.S.
    I taught myself to shirt bench and took it from 350 to 525 in a short time so I would say I'm a fast learner (suit may be different).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Celli View Post
    I would think you would have a hard time walking out in either suit you mentioned. They require a wide stance.
    Would I need to go wider than the width of the rack?
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    Is it your first suit?
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    Yep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickAus View Post
    Would I need to go wider than the width of the rack?
    Ive walked out an squatted decent weights in my ace suit a number of times in a standard rack. My stance is usually about 2-3 inches wider then a standard power rack, but it really doesn't make all that much difference.

    You can still get your stance out decently wide in a power rack if your toes are touching the sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickAus View Post
    Yep.
    I wouldn't consider the Ace or canvas, I'd go with something along the lines of a pro squatter
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    Nick,

    I started w/ the inzer z-suit... It is a good starter suit, in that it gets you familiar w/ using a suit and learning the groove of geared squating.

    After that I went to a Titan Centurion... Like jumping from a blast shirt to a Katana...Big F***** difference bro. I wasnt able to get depth for a long time until I got it re-sized. I dont have experiance w/ the metal stuff but if its advanced as the centurion It may be a good idea to get a good starter suit first.

    BTW Nick, I thought you were a Bench-only guy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonesXedge View Post
    I wouldn't consider the Ace or canvas, I'd go with something along the lines of a pro squatter
    Yeah, Can't go wrong with a pro squatter.

    I didn't find the ace any harder to use then the pro squatter, but it did take about 700lbs to get to depth. So I guess it depends what kind of numbers you are moving.
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    Have you tried the new Titan Boss with velcro straps? I have used almost every squat suit out there, and I would go with this one if you are looking multi-ply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SELK View Post
    Yeah, Can't go wrong with a pro squatter.

    I didn't find the ace any harder to use then the pro squatter, but it did take about 700lbs to get to depth. So I guess it depends what kind of numbers you are moving.
    I have done over 600 including bands with just briefs @ 200.

    I think I will just take a while to hit depth like you said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robchris View Post
    Nick,

    I started w/ the inzer z-suit... It is a good starter suit, in that it gets you familiar w/ using a suit and learning the groove of geared squating.

    After that I went to a Titan Centurion... Like jumping from a blast shirt to a Katana...Big F***** difference bro. I wasnt able to get depth for a long time until I got it re-sized. I dont have experiance w/ the metal stuff but if its advanced as the centurion It may be a good idea to get a good starter suit first.

    BTW Nick, I thought you were a Bench-only guy?
    I have been Bench only just to get my bench up as it was always the hardest lift for me.

    I could squat 400 raw @ 185 with about 5 weeks training.

    Need to rest elbow from benching but I would like to squat 700@200 next year and I will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TravisMash View Post
    Have you tried the new Titan Boss with velcro straps? I have used almost every squat suit out there, and I would go with this one if you are looking multi-ply.
    Have not heard about it, I have heard lots of good things about the ace though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lonesXedge View Post
    I wouldn't consider the Ace or canvas, I'd go with something along the lines of a pro squatter
    The plan was to learn it with-out briefs under so I should be right if I can use 600+ (should be able to).
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    Dude the ace isnt that hard to use. Like you said use it a few time without briefs...just make sure your get the legs seated all the way...you want to get that seam on the leg up to the hips...if not it will pull your legs in. The pro will just be a pain in the ass without the velcro straps...and you dont want to have to spend extra money getting them on. and get it fit tight..at 200lbs most likely youll need a 48-50

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglasoh5 View Post
    Dude the ace isnt that hard to use. Like you said use it a few time without briefs...just make sure your get the legs seated all the way...you want to get that seam on the leg up to the hips...if not it will pull your legs in. The pro will just be a pain in the ass without the velcro straps...and you dont want to have to spend extra money getting them on. and get it fit tight..at 200lbs most likely youll need a 48-50
    Thank you, I am pleased everyone is helping me.

    No offence to anyone but I don't think learning it will be all that hard it will just take some time.
    Lots of people act like this stuff is really hard but I have not found that so far at least with bench shirts.

    My weight is 210 today so maybe the 50?
    My legs are 26.5, hips 42-42.5.
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