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    What exercise builds the Lateral Deltoid best?

    Shoulder press makes my shoulder hurt so I'm trying to avoid it. Are lateral raises effective at all? They seem too light to do much good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jww13
    Shoulder press makes my shoulder hurt so I'm trying to avoid it.
    Really? Interesting!!

    Quote Originally Posted by jww13
    Are lateral raises effective at all? They seem too light to do much good.
    If they seem to light, perhaps you need to increase the weight until you are challenged, but at the same time, keep proper form.

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    Cable laterals/raises are my favorite but I tend to mix them in with free weights.
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    20's are about the most I can do for 10 reps right now. Then again, I just started them tonight. They just seem useless like kickbacks to me

    I'll move up in weight when I can keep good form.

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    I had taken 3 intra muscular injections for body gain. what does it side effects occured in future?

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    Intramuscual injections? i thought this thread was about the lateral delts.

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    There is no lateral deltoid. I'll assume your talking about the medial deltoid.
    Side laters with dumbells will do the trick.
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    Upright rows hit em as well, I believe

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam MacKinnon
    There is no lateral deltoid. I'll assume your talking about the medial deltoid.
    Side laters with dumbells will do the trick.
    To his credit, ExRx even calls it the lateral deltoid
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    Hold onto something and do one-armed lateral raises with a heavy weight.. You are allowed to use momentum etc ("cheat") on this excercise as it helps overload the muscle

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    Quote Originally Posted by twm5993
    Upright rows hit em as well, I believe
    Agreed. I love these for my delts.

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    if u can get the ronnie video and watch how he does them, he cheats a little yes and doesnt keep is amrs straight out, he bends them some, ive changed my form to this with less rocking and it has been working well

    do like 4x15,12,10,8 atleast that is what i do, from 20lbs to 35lbs, i think front raises will also to the trick? but yea that sucks you cant do the big shoulder movement, ive always enjoyed doing one really big movement for every muscle, hope that doesnt effect your gains in any way

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    I usually cheat on lat raises; I think it's an effective way of building the muscle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emjlr3
    if u can get the ronnie video and watch how he does them, he cheats a little yes and doesnt keep is amrs straight out, he bends them some, ive changed my form to this with less rocking and it has been working well

    do like 4x15,12,10,8 atleast that is what i do, from 20lbs to 35lbs, i think front raises will also to the trick? but yea that sucks you cant do the big shoulder movement, ive always enjoyed doing one really big movement for every muscle, hope that doesnt effect your gains in any way
    Thanks, I'll try that.

    Yes I hate that I can't do overhead presses without pain. It just kills my front left delt (feels like it's being squeezed resulting in a sharp pain as my arms go higher).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jww13
    Thanks, I'll try that.

    Yes I hate that I can't do overhead presses without pain. It just kills my front left delt (feels like it's being squeezed resulting in a sharp pain as my arms go higher).

    where is your pain at? because i have a pain my my left shoulder just above like my armpit, i can do presses with it but not flyes, feels like a guitar string being plucked or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by emjlr3
    where is your pain at? because i have a pain my my left shoulder just above like my armpit, i can do presses with it but not flyes, feels like a guitar string being plucked or something
    It's right where the muscle insertions of the medial and anterior delt meet. The higher I raise my arm, the more the muscles contract and the sharper the pain gets.

    It's not from a known injury either. I've had this pain ever since I can remember, and it hurts doing that motion even without weight (but more w/ weight).

    I also get the pain when I do heavy flies, so I avoid those as well. Flat dumbbell press is the most stretch my chest gets :-/

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    One of the best things to do for your shoulders is heavy db squats and dl, holding your arms a little further than shoulder width at your sides. Then some lateral raises for full rom and some arm circles to cool down, that's a shoulder workout. And legs too.
    *Edit: If your pain is caused by a weak rotator muscle you should check this site out and maybe add more bent over lateral raises to your routine.
    http://familydoctor.org/265.xml
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    surely above the head presses with db's would be more beneficial for shoulders than db squats?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1r15h
    surely above the head presses with db's would be more beneficial for shoulders than db squats?
    Pressing above my head hurts my shoulder though. Not sure about the db squats...

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    the upright rows seem to hit em good for me, lat raises etc though they actually tend to cause a slight pain in my shoulder
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    Another vote for upright rows.
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    Upright rows put your shoulder joint at a disadvantage. Those with shoulder\wrist issues should steer clear in my opinion.
    Lateral raises.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevermore
    Upright rows put your shoulder joint at a disadvantage.
    How so?
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    use a rope on a pulley machine to do upright rows, with that you can have ur wrists however u want, when i do them that is how i do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevermore
    Upright rows put your shoulder joint at a disadvantage. Those with shoulder\wrist issues should steer clear in my opinion.
    Lateral raises.
    Geez. When do you drink the Mixmaster's koolaid??!? My legions are forming soon than I though.

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    Internal Shoulder Rotation Inflexibility
    Increased risk of shoulder injury during activities involving internal rotation of the shoulder. When the shoulder is flexed and internally rotated, pressure can be created between the insertion of the supraspinatus and acromion or coracoacromial ligament. Incidentally, pain in this position can be indicative of impingement or rotator cuff tendinitis (Hutton & Julin 1997). Tight internal rotators can contribute to protracted shoulders.
    * Examples of affected exercises:
    o Upright Row (narrow grip)
    * Example preventative / corrective exercises:
    o Infraspinatus Broom Stick Stretch

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