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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Who do I believe?

    IM tired of hearing different things from everybody. I wanna know why in some article like perhaps the book of arnold charzenegger he was training 6 days a week and etc. and when you come here, majority of the people says that you only need to train 3-4 times a week. It confuses me a lot so i dont know how many times a week to train. When I look at big guys at the gym, they train almost eveyday, can some1 help me with this plz
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    did you read your own post??? your askin the people that train 3-4 times a week wether or notyou should listen to them ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredd
    IM tired of hearing different things from everybody. I wanna know why in some article like perhaps the book of arnold charzenegger he was training 6 days a week and etc. and when you come here, majority of the people says that you only need to train 3-4 times a week. It confuses me a lot so i dont know how many times a week to train. When I look at big guys at the gym, they train almost eveyday, can some1 help me with this plz
    Although there are a number of answers, if you are unsure why not try both and decide what works best for you.
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    Some people can train 6 days a week and see results. Those people are few and far between.

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    Are you a genetic freak like Arnold and taking steroids by the gallon?

    If not, you should probably train like the rest of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredd
    IM tired of hearing different things from everybody. I wanna know why in some article like perhaps the book of arnold charzenegger he was training 6 days a week and etc. and when you come here, majority of the people says that you only need to train 3-4 times a week. It confuses me a lot so i dont know how many times a week to train. When I look at big guys at the gym, they train almost eveyday, can some1 help me with this plz
    Every single person is different and there is no one training program out there that can cover everyone. The trick is, is to find out what works for you. The best way to do that would be to contact a personal trainer and get an assessment of where you are at and then design a program specifically for you and your goals.
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    Are you a genetic freak like Arnold and taking steroids by the gallon?

    If not, you should probably train like the rest of us.
    If you train a muscle group a day.. your gonna end up with about 5 days of training.. plus 2 days off.. so that means 6 days rest for each group.. sounds legitimate to me.

    my routine includes: mon: chest, tues: bicep/tricep wed: legs, thur: shoulders, fri: back/neck, sat & sun: off

    Not saying its the correct way to do things.. but there are a thousand and one ways to arrange a working routine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredd
    IM tired of hearing different things from everybody. I wanna know why in some article like perhaps the book of arnold charzenegger he was training 6 days a week and etc. and when you come here, majority of the people says that you only need to train 3-4 times a week. It confuses me a lot so i dont know how many times a week to train. When I look at big guys at the gym, they train almost eveyday, can some1 help me with this plz
    Arnold was using steroids. His workouts are designed for those who are on the juice. If you're not juicing, stay away from his workouts because you'll get burnt out fast. You'll make gains at first, sure, but when overtraining sets in, you're not going to enjoy yourself. There just isn't a need to train that often in order to get huge. There are gargantuan guys on here too that don't train their muscles that often.
    "The only easy day was yesterday."

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    You'll make gains at first, sure, but when overtraining sets in, you're not going to enjoy yourself.
    No one is talking about overtraining sets. If you stick to a good, solid set/rep scheme there isnt a problem to training more than 3 days a week. (thats dependent on the person of course.. some people may get the best gains training a group twice a week.. and some may only be able to train 3 days out of the week.. everyone is different.)

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    ^^

    That's completely dependent upon how people split up their routine. And 3-4 days is week is plenty to get "HUGE". I was referring to the workouts in Arnold's routine in his book, since that's what the OP was referring to. Arnie has the reader doing a full body routine twice a week with a LOT of different exercises.
    "The only easy day was yesterday."

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    I agree with you.. I think i just read to much into your last post.

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    You should look at the "Advanced" routine in Arnie's book. It would make you cry.
    "The only easy day was yesterday."

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    Do you have a link? I'll get my hankie out.

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    Hehe...no. You'd have to go look at his book: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/068...308703?ie=UTF8

    Plus I'm too lazy to go get the book and write everything down.
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    "The only easy day was yesterday."

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    If its anything like his "cum" filled description of his workouts I think I will enjoy it!

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    omg arnolds advanced routine is INSANE. Squats bench deadlifts everything all the same day like 6 sets of ever lift and like 20 lifts. I dont see how anyone could have done that.
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    I dont see how anyone could have done that.
    "Juice"...
    "The only easy day was yesterday."

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    Wasnt he going 10-12 times a week at one point? I remember he was going mornings and night, or was that 3 days a week making it 6 times a week?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodninja
    Are you a genetic freak like Arnold and taking steroids by the gallon?

    If not, you should probably train like the rest of us.
    I think this post described it best.

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    What do you think about this routine? Its mostly about bicep gains and this guy has 16 inch biceps.
    http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/justin1.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by JConrad
    What do you think about this routine? Its mostly about bicep gains and this guy has 16 inch biceps.
    http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/justin1.htm
    16 inch biceps isn't that huge. Trust me. Also, where's the triceps? This guys priorities are WRONG. Eat well and train EVERYTHING for strength and rest will fall into place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guido
    16 inch biceps isn't that huge. Trust me. Also, where's the triceps? This guys priorities are WRONG. Eat well and train EVERYTHING for strength and rest will fall into place.
    Fair enough, btw what is your opinion of the baby got back routine? I just looked at it for the first time and I really like the look of it.
    http://www.wannabebig.com/article.php?articleid=255

    There seems to be a mixture of strength rep ranges and higher rep ranges, plus it also has a two quad workouts in a week, one light, one heavy.

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    I'm gonna give it a try as I think it will give me more of a workout (I was on a cut but then I decided "what the hell, I'll just cut when I have the muscle I want) so BGB could help me limit the fat gains as well as building great muscle.

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    I thought this quote was funny:
    Face it: biceps are the muscle that classifies you as a muscle man.

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