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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Senior Member thecoder0's Avatar
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    Questions about Smith Machines

    Can anyone tell me what the weight of the bar is with the smith machine Im guessing its weight neutral but not sure...

    Also I have used it today for seated millitary presses because the Gym was packed and the bars were in use time was short so I thought I would improvise rather than not finish my workout due to time issues..

    Also I did BB Rows as well and have to say I feel like I hit the spot more with these than free bar or DBells.....

    Are the smith machines a good training tool and effective what you think ?
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    Most are neutral in weight. They're not as effective as free weights, but much better than doing nothing.
    With free weights you not only lift the weight but you have to stabilize it also. Smith Machines work on a guide rail, they balance and stabilize the weight for you.
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    Can anyone tell me what the weight of the bar is with the smith machine Im guessing its weight neutral but not sure...
    It varies from one machine to the next.

    Are the smith machines a good training tool and effective what you think ?
    They have their uses but I can't think of a single example of where a smith machine exercise is superior to its free weight counterpart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecoder0 View Post
    Can anyone tell me what the weight of the bar is with the smith machine Im guessing its weight neutral but not sure...

    Also I have used it today for seated millitary presses because the Gym was packed and the bars were in use time was short so I thought I would improvise rather than not finish my workout due to time issues..

    Also I did BB Rows as well and have to say I feel like I hit the spot more with these than free bar or DBells.....

    Are the smith machines a good training tool and effective what you think ?
    Most smith machine bars weigh anywhere from 0-15 lbs.

    They are not as effective as barbells or dumbbells, but can be a good option for someone who is injured or is just starting out since it is easier to perform exercises on the smith machine. In general I would start off with free weight movements and save machines for the end of your workouts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tom183 View Post
    It varies from one machine to the next.



    They have their uses but I can't think of a single example of where a smith machine exercise is superior to its free weight counterpart.
    I understand the range of motion thing as you say,but I was very suprised at the pump and burn I got in the delts and upper back when I used them I seemed better able to get the squeeze at the top of the movements in the muscles being used....Also could be some other factor I guess but I seemed better able to control the form...

    Possibly I am too heavy when using free weights at the moment not giving me as much control over form ....dunno
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    I have done rows on a smith machine a few times and really felt them. You can throw them in occasionally but I'd do 90% of the time either DBs or BBs
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    I use the smith machine for shrugs, and thats about it. Keep in mind that when you squat or bench on a smith machine your not just pushing that weight up and down, your pushing it against that rail. Kind of like doing leg presses only more virticule so it makes it a lot easier.
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