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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Pics of 22 yr old - Intermediate lifter (comments wanted)

    Sup guys , This is my first post and im just settling into the community here.

    I started working out senior year in high school and did everything wrong for a couple eyars (too many curls, too little calories)

    Over the past year and ahalf ive been pretty serious about lifting and eating. I eat clean during the week most of the weekend. I only booze about 1-2 a month which is pretty good while being a senior in college.

    Took these pics a couple weeks ago. I got a BF % test done at my local gym and it said I was 11.8%, what do you think?

    IM currently trying to "clean bulk," putting on muscle with little fat as possible and so far its working. I didnt have a job all summer and simply cooked, ate, and ripped the gym

    check out the pics and lemme know whatcha think.

    I weigh about 175 lbs in them







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    strong base, very lean. my opinion, I wouldn't worry about your diet being clean, keep the alcohol out of it still, but it doesn't need to be clean. You look like you're naturally lean so it's going to take alot of eatting to put on some serious weight, i'm the same way. During the winter just stuff your face dude.
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    I disagree. You should continue to eat as clean as possible and up the calories slowly. While dirty bulking is fun, it is complete nonsense in that you will balloon in water retention, raise your cholesterol levels, gain unneeccesary fat, and for what? to have two extra pounds of muscle and twenty of fat? dirty bulking is just an excuse that people make who can't take responsibility for their diet. I am speaking from experience, it can takes months even years to properly diet off and restore the lean body type you had before you "bulked" at the risk of losing all the muscle you put on. Why not just keep things strict, gain muscle slowly, stay lean and keep your gains? The main difference between the 15-18 yr olds on this board and truly successful athletes is the dedication and focus it takes to do things right and carefully for year after year. Life isn't a sprint, it's a marathon. You don't want to dirty bulk, get fat, be unhealthy and feel unhealthy, and then give up and say dieting isn't for me and then come back a year later as a complete fat ass. Clean = better in my opinion. Argue away high school kids, but it isn't me whose going to be looking in the mirror in 5 years of bulk/cut "cycles" and wondering why can't get lean enough or big enough or thinking I have terrible genetics..

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    that's what I hope to look like when I cut this fall!
    Height: 6' weight:197
    BF%: ~12%?

    bench: 280 x 1
    squat: 370 x 1
    dead: 360 x 1

    goal: 225 @ < 10% bodyfat

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    how tall?
    Height: 6' weight:197
    BF%: ~12%?

    bench: 280 x 1
    squat: 370 x 1
    dead: 360 x 1

    goal: 225 @ < 10% bodyfat

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    Quote Originally Posted by dxiw View Post
    I disagree. You should continue to eat as clean as possible and up the calories slowly. While dirty bulking is fun, it is complete nonsense in that you will balloon in water retention, raise your cholesterol levels, gain unneeccesary fat, and for what? to have two extra pounds of muscle and twenty of fat? dirty bulking is just an excuse that people make who can't take responsibility for their diet. I am speaking from experience, it can takes months even years to properly diet off and restore the lean body type you had before you "bulked" at the risk of losing all the muscle you put on. Why not just keep things strict, gain muscle slowly, stay lean and keep your gains? The main difference between the 15-18 yr olds on this board and truly successful athletes is the dedication and focus it takes to do things right and carefully for year after year. Life isn't a sprint, it's a marathon. You don't want to dirty bulk, get fat, be unhealthy and feel unhealthy, and then give up and say dieting isn't for me and then come back a year later as a complete fat ass. Clean = better in my opinion. Argue away high school kids, but it isn't me whose going to be looking in the mirror in 5 years of bulk/cut "cycles" and wondering why can't get lean enough or big enough or thinking I have terrible genetics..
    LOL - you don't have to eat fast food everyday, but you also don't have to be completely clean with your food either. The difference between the successful on this board is that they understand you need alot of food to grow. As long as you're training like you should and hittlng cardio, you won't just end up a fatass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radioheadhead View Post
    how tall?

    I am 5 foot 8 inches

    I'm at the girlfriends now and posting from my iPhone. I will respond to the other posts later. Thanks for the input it's been a good tool to aid in reflection of my progress.

    Thanks guys

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    awesome work, I am 6' and trying to bulk to 220-225 and then slowly cut down to 9%, hopefully at around 200lbs.
    Height: 6' weight:197
    BF%: ~12%?

    bench: 280 x 1
    squat: 370 x 1
    dead: 360 x 1

    goal: 225 @ < 10% bodyfat

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    got my BF tested this week, up to 179 LBS and 12 % BF

    All my lifts are up

    Deadlift = 315 x 3
    Bench = 225 x 3

    my military shoulder press is really lacking and doesn't progress as fast as I would like... i currently do 135 x 5 and the reps get lower until I hit my PR of 175

    I do military press, upright row, standing dumbell press for shoulders... any other suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Moore View Post
    LOL - you don't have to eat fast food everyday, but you also don't have to be completely clean with your food either. The difference between the successful on this board is that they understand you need alot of food to grow. As long as you're training like you should and hittlng cardio, you won't just end up a fatass.

    I have to agree with the Times article....cardio isn't as important as diet. At all. Whatsoever. I gree you don't have to east fast food every day, but why not get into a good habit of eating clean? Your body will thank you, and you won't get tubby. If you eat like crap, it doesn't matter how much cardio you do.

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    also, it is very difficult to track cals properly when eating out. you're better off prepping your food and being consistent w/ a clean diet. and for the record... you can easily gain fat while eating 100% clean. fat gain is a function of excess quantity calories less maintenance less activity expenditures. that sounds pretty fancy.

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    Good points, I agree. By eating clean, I meant non-processed foods in moderation, I should've been more clear. Good distinction, though.

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    Your military press @135 x 5, is right where it shoud be, based on your other lifts.

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    Hi Danny, you look awesome mate

    What is your current diet (including cals/macros)? Very curious to know

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    Quote Originally Posted by dxiw View Post
    I disagree. You should continue to eat as clean as possible and up the calories slowly. While dirty bulking is fun, it is complete nonsense in that you will balloon in water retention, raise your cholesterol levels, gain unneeccesary fat, and for what? to have two extra pounds of muscle and twenty of fat? dirty bulking is just an excuse that people make who can't take responsibility for their diet. I am speaking from experience, it can takes months even years to properly diet off and restore the lean body type you had before you "bulked" at the risk of losing all the muscle you put on. Why not just keep things strict, gain muscle slowly, stay lean and keep your gains? The main difference between the 15-18 yr olds on this board and truly successful athletes is the dedication and focus it takes to do things right and carefully for year after year. Life isn't a sprint, it's a marathon. You don't want to dirty bulk, get fat, be unhealthy and feel unhealthy, and then give up and say dieting isn't for me and then come back a year later as a complete fat ass. Clean = better in my opinion. Argue away high school kids, but it isn't me whose going to be looking in the mirror in 5 years of bulk/cut "cycles" and wondering why can't get lean enough or big enough or thinking I have terrible genetics..
    I don't post here much, but just thought I'd speak up and say GREAT POST. I agree with your take on "dirty bulking" 100%. I am definitely in the camp of "quality over quantity" when it comes to gaining weight.

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    Heres an update guys.

    Im stilla t it lifting and eating right. Im lifting about 5 days a week, one per body part plus a bonus day of a light full body.

    I have neglected squats for awhile but im slowly progressing and working hard on them. Up to about 225 X 5

    I hit 405 for a deadlift this week for my first time. Check out the video below and feel free to comment on it.

    I took some more pics. I weigh 186 LBS now. I think i put on a little fat in the mid section but thats to be expected when im throwing on LBS. I think im gonna continue as I am now and get as big and strong as i can until feb-march, then cut 5-8 lbs for summer.

    Please let me know what you think of my first pics and these pics now...













    and my deadlift of 405

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a0b0Xh88r4
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    DL looks strong. Pulling 4PPS is a good milestone!

    My recommendations:
    1. Bring your stance in a little, looks a little like your knees buckle in from being out a little wide. Imagine yourself about to attempt a standing broad jump. Where you place your feet is ideal for conventional deadlift stance.
    2. put some weight on the bar!

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    any other thoughts?

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    BTW my "put your weight on the bar" was not meant to be rude. It was more of a "wow that looked easy. Sure thats your max" sort of comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cmanuel View Post
    BTW my "put your weight on the bar" was not meant to be rude. It was more of a "wow that looked easy. Sure thats your max" sort of comment.
    Ya man I didnt take it wrong. It did seem to go up pretty easy. Im going to do it again this week then go up next week and see how that feels.

    thanks for the input! I will adjust my stance

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    What does your entire routine look like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyocean1996 View Post
    Ya man I didnt take it wrong. It did seem to go up pretty easy. Im going to do it again this week then go up next week and see how that feels.

    thanks for the input! I will adjust my stance
    No problem. Hit a big PR and then post the video on this thread! I'm always glad to help

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