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    Thinking of A new bar

    Over the last few weeks I have been thinking that a new bar would be a good investment, and in light of the recent post about 300* weight limit bars I thought it a good idea to see what bars people suggest.

    My current bar is a CL find that came with the bench and 260 odd pounds of plates for a heck of a deal of $100... My plate collection is growing steadily to keep in front of my maxes, and my lifts are ever climbing into the realm of uncertainty of my bar and its capabilities.

    So the criteria for a new bar would be a solid durable bar that can do it all and not break the bank. $200 would be my hope and under that would better fit the budget. I like the sound of a raw steel bar but I am afraid that my Florida "Garage" gym would not be kind to it. I want to make sure it can stand up to Olly lifting and be used with bumper plates in the future.

    Am I crazy, or does such a bar exist? Sorry for rambeling. let me know your thoughts. Who makes a great do it all Budget Bar.
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    I am extremely interested in responses for this... and it does correspond to my other thread :P
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    Weight: 175lbs
    Body Fat around 12%
    Biceps: 14.5"
    Chest: 38"

    Bench Press: 225 x 10 reps and 275 pounds x 1 rep
    Deadlift: 405 pounds x 1 rep
    Squat: 335 pounds x 3 reps

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    Have you checked a local Play-It-Again Sports? Craigslist is also a good resource.

    A used York Barbell in good condition would be a great buy. You can alwyas get a bar re-knurled as well.
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    I had York equipment when I was young... you know, the weights filled with concrete, etc... I always thought York was one of the worst companies but I have not seen any of their standard or olympic equipment lol...

    Is York considered better than Cap?
    Age: 25
    Height: 5'7"
    Weight: 175lbs
    Body Fat around 12%
    Biceps: 14.5"
    Chest: 38"

    Bench Press: 225 x 10 reps and 275 pounds x 1 rep
    Deadlift: 405 pounds x 1 rep
    Squat: 335 pounds x 3 reps

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    Check out roguefitness.com they have some great bars for cheap. http://www.roguefitness.com/store/bars.php And they have the best customer service.
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    Here is a question, How Important do you all find center knurling for squatting?
    the Rogue bars look like a great option for the price and they have your choice of finish in my above price range... just no center knurling.

    I guess I will post a link to the bar in question... http://www.roguefitness.com/store/rogue_burner.php

    They have a York bar for just over 200 that fits the bill. They also have York bars that are 150ish but are not rated for O lifts.

    Damn now I'm still confused.
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    The bar I use at home is a 1000-lb rated bar from newyorkbarbells.com. It's around $200 with shipping. Great all-purpose bar. I love it.

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    The only problem for me is I live in Canada so the shipping charges would be massive.

    Also, I have used bars with and without center knurling and didn't notice any difference in terms of grip.

    What is the difference between the Rogue Burner bar and the Rogue bar? Both look to be excellent bars. Are you simply paying for the life warranty for the rogue bar vs the one year warranty on the other?

    http://www.roguefitness.com/store/rogue_burner.php

    http://www.roguefitness.com/store/rogue_bar.php


    Finally, what are scratch and dent bars? They are really cheap at $75. Wondering their capacity, etc.

    http://www.roguefitness.com/store/product674.html
    Last edited by charles_316; 12-15-2009 at 08:58 AM.
    Age: 25
    Height: 5'7"
    Weight: 175lbs
    Body Fat around 12%
    Biceps: 14.5"
    Chest: 38"

    Bench Press: 225 x 10 reps and 275 pounds x 1 rep
    Deadlift: 405 pounds x 1 rep
    Squat: 335 pounds x 3 reps

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    Charles, I put in a Question about the scratch and dent bars to see what kind of info they could give me on them. I will report back when I hear from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr handy View Post
    Charles, I put in a Question about the scratch and dent bars to see what kind of info they could give me on them. I will report back when I hear from them.
    Thanks. I've also sent them a couple questions regarding the Rogue bars. I will report back upon receiving response.
    Age: 25
    Height: 5'7"
    Weight: 175lbs
    Body Fat around 12%
    Biceps: 14.5"
    Chest: 38"

    Bench Press: 225 x 10 reps and 275 pounds x 1 rep
    Deadlift: 405 pounds x 1 rep
    Squat: 335 pounds x 3 reps

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    So I got a response from Rogue Canada..

    "The Rogue bar is a 28.4mm coated bar and is guaranteed for life. The Burner bar is very similar to the Rogue bar except it does not have a coating to prevent rust (i.e. it will rust if you do not do minimal maintenance) The feel of uncoated bar is second to none. "

    But the bar costs almost $300 after shipping for Canada. I am seriously debating just buying a generic bar from a local fitness store since I could buy 2 generic bars for that price and I *think* they should hold up to 500 lbs, for sure 300-350 lbs which is the level I am at currently.
    Age: 25
    Height: 5'7"
    Weight: 175lbs
    Body Fat around 12%
    Biceps: 14.5"
    Chest: 38"

    Bench Press: 225 x 10 reps and 275 pounds x 1 rep
    Deadlift: 405 pounds x 1 rep
    Squat: 335 pounds x 3 reps

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    Well I got a response from rogue about the dent and scratch bars and he basically stated what is said on the site. It's a 31mm bar with center knurl and chrome plated. He stared the the bar is Pinned. I know that refers to the method of attachment of the collars but not sure what the capabilities of the bar would be.

    I may give one a try, but at the moment I am leaning towards the burner bar. It depends on what type of scratch I can put together in a month or 2.
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    I've had a B&R bar for about a year and I love it. B&R is the product of Burgener and Rippetoe. They have it at roguefitness. If I remember correctly, it's built by york. It is 29mm, has center knurling and has great spin for O lifts. It's one of the natural steel bars that will oxidize over time and it feels great, well worth the money.

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    I just found a used standard 7' olympic bar (generic brand) on sale for only $50. However, it has some rust on it.

    What do you guys think?

    Given my budget, if functionally it's ok, then it seems to be fine right?
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    Age: 25
    Height: 5'7"
    Weight: 175lbs
    Body Fat around 12%
    Biceps: 14.5"
    Chest: 38"

    Bench Press: 225 x 10 reps and 275 pounds x 1 rep
    Deadlift: 405 pounds x 1 rep
    Squat: 335 pounds x 3 reps

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    Quote Originally Posted by charles_316 View Post
    I just found a used standard 7' olympic bar (generic brand) on sale for only $50. However, it has some rust on it.

    What do you guys think?

    Given my budget, if functionally it's ok, then it seems to be fine right?
    The rust on the bar isn't a problem to me, use it and then after wash your hands and eventually the rust will be gone. The end of the bar can be taken off and put on a wire wheel or use a wire brush to clean up those.

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    The rust is easily taken care of with a spray of methylated spirits and a hard steel brush.

    I prefer the rust, looks kinda bad ass.
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