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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Quote Originally Posted by barryisawinnah View Post
    I have no problem knowing I'm not going to be in the mix to win, but nobody wants to do a show where they are going to 0 most of the events. Some promoters just don't get that though.

    Well my little rant is over, lol

    Just keep hitting it hard and you will be ready for most open shows before you know it
    thanks bud and I agree with you completely.



    There have been a few threads on some of the strongman forums where some of the pro's are bashing anyone that wants to train strongman but can't do the same weights as they do.

    I understand and agree that it's "strongman" and should test your strength but saying that it's not strongman unless you're doing 250lb axles, 300lb stones and 600lb yoke (as a lightweight) doesn't seem like a good way to grow the sport. These are all arbitrary numbers and what's important is that you're testing yourself and enjoying the events which are always a lot of fun, even when they suck (like the yoke)

    You don't see NFL, MLB or NBA players making fun of the guys playing high school and college level athletics. Just look at all the NFL sponsored leagues for kids. These didn't exist when I was younger and now they're everywhere. And surprisingly enough the NFL is probably the most popular sport in the country.

    Now my rant's over

    edit: I don't want anyone to think that everyone acts like this in strongman. I'd imagine it's the minority that do. I train with the president of North American Strongman and several national level amateurs. Every single one of them is as excited when I hit a 180lb axle as they are when Ian hits a 355lb one. And that's what I think needs to get out there. The comraderie and support is tremendous 99% of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StLRPh View Post
    thanks bud and I agree with you completely.



    There have been a few threads on some of the strongman forums where some of the pro's are bashing anyone that wants to train strongman but can't do the same weights as they do.

    I understand and agree that it's "strongman" and should test your strength but saying that it's not strongman unless you're doing 250lb axles, 300lb stones and 600lb yoke (as a lightweight) doesn't seem like a good way to grow the sport. These are all arbitrary numbers and what's important is that you're testing yourself and enjoying the events which are always a lot of fun, even when they suck (like the yoke)

    You don't see NFL, MLB or NBA players making fun of the guys playing high school and college level athletics. Just look at all the NFL sponsored leagues for kids. These didn't exist when I was younger and now they're everywhere. And surprisingly enough the NFL is probably the most popular sport in the country.

    Now my rant's over

    edit: I don't want anyone to think that everyone acts like this in strongman. I'd imagine it's the minority that do. I train with the president of North American Strongman and several national level amateurs. Every single one of them is as excited when I hit a 180lb axle as they are when Ian hits a 355lb one. And that's what I think needs to get out there. The comraderie and support is tremendous 99% of the time.
    exactly, I think I know exactly what you're talking about (over at Marunde). I train with some guys who have placed top 15 at Nationals weekly and occasionally a HW pro and a HW amateur who has taken 3rd place at a few platinum plusses (they now train with Brian Shaw, pretty freaking sweet) and they are nothing but encouraging and helpful.They were as happy for me when I loaded my 1st 300 stone as they were when D loaded his 1st 400.

    If I was a promoter, I would have more silver level shows where you really make the weights more manageable for everybody, get more competitors, and I am willing to bet that the majority of new competitors get hooked and then will bust their ass to be able to do heavier shows in the future.
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    From what I understand the level of the show has more to do with the prizes and sponsorships than the weights and/or divisions (KY Strongest Man is a gold show). They just need to try to have a novice division whenever possible. My registration $ works just as good as the pros

    I know that NAS is watching all of this stuff and really wants to make strongman more accessable to the masses so hopefully we'll see something in the next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StLRPh View Post
    From what I understand the level of the show has more to do with the prizes and sponsorships than the weights and/or divisions (KY Strongest Man is a gold show). They just need to try to have a novice division whenever possible. My registration $ works just as good as the pros

    I know that NAS is watching all of this stuff and really wants to make strongman more accessable to the masses so hopefully we'll see something in the next year.
    yeah the levels have to with the money (prizes, etc) and National Qualifications. Silver only the winners of the classes get a qual, Gold Top 2, Platinum top 3.

    Yeah just having a Novice division at most shows would work too.The 2 shows that I have done, had more Novice competitors just in the LW then both the open LW and HW had combined.

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    Just reread your original post and was going to add to mine to say exactly what you did. I understand that as guys get bigger, stronger and better at strongman to the pro-qualifiers have to get tougher, just don't forget about the rest of us
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    Quote Originally Posted by StLRPh View Post
    Just reread your original post and was going to add to mine to say exactly what you did. I understand that as guys get bigger, stronger and better at strongman to the pro-qualifiers have to get tougher, just don't forget about the rest of us
    exactly

    It's really up to the promoters. Kevin Nee said something about this in an interview a while back, basically that it seems like promoters are trying to set a heavier and heavier record at every show, it's getting out of hand, lol

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    you got me to thinking the other day when you got your farmers handles. a local school has a set of farmers handles and a weighted log that i may jsut purcahse. those logs are hard to come by so i may just get that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bojackson View Post
    you got me to thinking the other day when you got your farmers handles. a local school has a set of farmers handles and a weighted log that i may jsut purcahse. those logs are hard to come by so i may just get that.
    DO IT!!!!!!!!
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    Quite a bench day there Matt! Still waiting for Handstand pullups though...oops.

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    Congrats on the HSPU. I'm still working on that one. It sounds so easy but people just don't realize how tough they are.

    Also congrats on the bench. I'd love just to get 225. But since I bench maybe one every 3-4 months, I doubt that happens..lol
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    Some of those strongman events look REALLY tough. 220x2 farmer's walk???!?!!!!!!


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    Totally agree with yOur comments I have found strongman to be the most welcoming sport. Stems right from watching them cheer eachother on tv!
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    Pharm, you have to remember that the internet brings out the worst in some people. I certainly wouldn't judge the competitors as a whole by what you read on forums. Assholes need an audience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john o View Post
    Quite a bench day there Matt! Still waiting for Handstand pullups though...oops.
    thanks buddy
    Quote Originally Posted by mrelwooddowd View Post
    Congrats on the HSPU. I'm still working on that one. It sounds so easy but people just don't realize how tough they are.
    Also congrats on the bench. I'd love just to get 225. But since I bench maybe one every 3-4 months, I doubt that happens..lol
    thanks, I really didn't think it would happen but the decreased ROM makes a huge difference
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    Some of those strongman events look REALLY tough. 220x2 farmer's walk???!?!!!!!!
    I don't have a CF journal subscription.
    220lb ea hand is pretty standard for novice/masters. My best is 230lb per hand for about 10 ft and that was my 1st day. Hopefully these will go fine. Probably test it out relatively soon.
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    Totally agree with yOur comments I have found strongman to be the most welcoming sport. Stems right from watching them cheer eachother on tv!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Off Road View Post
    Pharm, you have to remember that the internet brings out the worst in some people. I certainly wouldn't judge the competitors as a whole by what you read on forums. Assholes need an audience.
    definitely, I've talked to a few people at the gym and many of them won't even go to that board anymore because of the flaming/trolling/etc...

    which is kind of sad because they have a lot of pro's there. It's the only place I've ever seen a race to 800lb deadlift where there were half a dozen guys that got it
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    Slight mishap this morning. I was trying to fix something (went out and finished up about 4 hrs later) and managed to cut about half of the knuckle on my left index off. Luckily the blade stopped at the bone. Nicked a vein and got stitches and a tetanus.

    Sorry Nick, I totally pussed out and had a doc do my stitches instead of just manning up and doing it myself

    So nothing involving grip for a few weeks, also spent 2 hrs at the docs. So, no lunch time training. Will get there tonight for DE Squats

    Still doing events tomorrow, just no idea what I'll be doing
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    Quote Originally Posted by StLRPh View Post
    Slight mishap this morning. I was trying to fix something (went out and finished up about 4 hrs later) and managed to cut about half of the knuckle on my left index off. Luckily the blade stopped at the bone. Nicked a vein and got stitches and a tetanus.

    Sorry Nick, I totally pussed out and had a doc do my stitches instead of just manning up and doing it myself

    So nothing involving grip for a few weeks, also spent 2 hrs at the docs. So, no lunch time training. Will get there tonight for DE Squats

    Still doing events tomorrow, just no idea what I'll be doing
    damn man, that sucks.

    At least it isn't anything that serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Off Road View Post
    That sucks. Be more careful, will ya
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    Ouch!! Lol man up an do stitches yourself? Bugger that!!
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    damn man, that sucks.
    At least it isn't anything that serious.
    it's really more embarrassing and annoying than anything. Also, not sure what I'm going to do because I can't do any kind of pulling for a while. So no olympic lifts, deads, pullups, rows
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    Going through a setback right when everything seems to be going just right is no fun by any means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoCoa View Post
    Going through a setback right when everything seems to be going just right is no fun by any means.

    Wish you well Matt.
    thanks Terry, just a little bump nothing more
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    DE Lower

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    good speed throughout, probably could have done more weight

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    tested out the hand a little, even without one finger I'm still OK with pullups, rows and deadlifts up to mid-200's probably. Once the hand stop being so sore I should be back to doing almost everything, hopefully just a few days
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    Nice DE squatting!

    Good to hear the hand shouldn't be affecting too much
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