The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness
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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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  1. #1
    Steve Buccilli 1400total's Avatar
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    Can one train for a gear meet and a raw meet at the same time?

    I have done 6 raw meets since i started powerlifting I have done 1 geared meet. My next meet is the SPF Iron house in April, (i will lift in single ply) and I am thinking of doing an ADAU meet in my hometown in May 4 weeks after.

    I was thinking about how I should train for both of these meets and if I could handle two meet so close together.
    I think I can handle it and after talking to my coach (Ryan Celli ) and the other guys at the gym it shouldn't be a problem.

    I believe my biggest obstacle will be how much abuse my body can take. I have learned that training in gear will tear the body down. The increase in heavy weight that the gear allows you to lift will take a toll on the body. You throw in the need to train as raw as long as possible and it could lead to being totally beat up.
    Here is an example from my last 2 workouts
    Last bench day

    bench warmed and did triples all the way up to 425 for 3.
    Put the shirt on and started doing board presses.
    450 for 3 with 4 board
    500 for 3 with 3 board
    560 for 3 with 3 board.

    then i did incline dumbell presses and went up to 140's for 6

    did some tricep work.

    The following day was speed work for squats, ended with 6 sets with 285 and 120 lbs of chains. (60 second rest).

    (on my heavy squat days I don't put my suit on until I get 550 or more)

    ok, so 1 day later and i am trashed!!!!!!! My entire body feels as if someone worked me over with a bat!

    Maybe I am whinning, maybe not. But I see this as being the main issue. I will need to train raw as much as possible, but I will also need to make sure I get enough gear work in to know how to use it properly.

    (although my last meet was successful I could have done more).

    I also realize that I will need to make sure I warm up properly and make use of the foam roller, lacross ball, etc. (cardio is a must)

    Might even have to throw in some active recovery like kettlebell work and sled pulling.

    anybody have any other thoughts?

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    Atleast you choose to do the raw meet after the geared meet....Id say just dont try and cram alot of raw training in after the ironhouse. make sure you deload rite than do a cpl fairly heavy but not maxing out on the raw stuff...just get the groove of thing then do the meet.

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    I guess it depends on which is your main prioriety. I put my main emphasis on geared. But I've also competed well enough raw to be ranked in the top 23 and higher the last 3 years as an open. So far, my most successful strategy has been to train in at least partial gear until the last week or two before the raw meet; and come out of it to know where your raw openers are (maybe a second) then go by judging your next attempts at the meet by how the previous one went.

    Also, I feel I get 'beat up' more by training raw on the comp lifts. But then I'm 54 and have a lot of old damage to my knees and shoulders (mostly football related) with 5 surgeries. So, I really appreciate my bench shirt and knee wraps.

    Also, I'd say the wisest move if you're feeling beat up would be to do 'less'; not more. That's almost always a sign of overtraining, adding more volume will just amplify it. Good luck!
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    You have access to a great coach and if he feels you can do it, I am sure he will be able to handle any questions/concerns you have. Good luck.

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