before i make my post, i want to say that i know gloves aren't optimal for grip strength (something i am trying to improve) and i do not want to wear them.
I am 17 and my dad has been talking to some people about wearing gloves because i have been getting more callouses lately. He said they aren't good for my hands and that gloves will stop me from getting them, but i told him that i want to improve my grip strength and gloves will hold me back. Last session i deadlifted, and ended with static holds, so i had some pretty nasty ones. Does anyone know how i can convince him not to make me wear gloves? He wants to go get them on tuesday, and i would hate to have to buy a purse to match my gloves.
lol try some tape or wrap your hands. if they have some chalk, that might help.i got the same problems but my dads not sayin anythin. goodluck
Last edited by aregd202; 01-31-2010 at 11:03 AM.
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Why are callouses bad for your hands? If they tear that sucks ass just keep them filed down.
Tell your dad this:
"Hey dad, what if I get stuck in the forest one day, and a bear is running after me, and I gotta climb up a tree? Am I supposed to tell the bear that's chasing me, 'hey bear, can you please wait one second while I put on some gloves so I don't tear my girly hands up while climbing this tree?'"
Callous formation is exacerbated by the specific way you grip the bar...
On dead lifts, try to grip the bar as deep as you can where the fingers attach to the palm. When you pull, gravity is pulling the bar down your hand. This tends to fold up your skin and compress it, forming a callous.
If you have the bar already in a position where it can't slide down any further; you can prevent much callous formation.
Callouses are only bad when they get so big they can rip off.
Eventually you should be able to develop your hands so they don't have problems hardly. Secondly if you are old enough to lift you are old enough to make your own decisions. Not trying to make you a disobedient child, but if you don't want to wear gloves, then don't wear them.
I'm impressed that your father took the time to call Mark Rippetoe. You could certainly have him call again about the gloves. I'm sure he'd get another earful...
*Poor proprioception (just can't feel the weight)
*by adding another layer, it increases the diameter you have to actually grip
*no callous formation - callous protects the hand
A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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Tell him if you get gloves then you have to get a matching purse!
gloves are bad because they are basically a flimsy piece of fabric between you and a heavy weight you have to control....just plain dangerous i think
buy some chalk instead and chalk your hands for deadlifts, row, or anything that hurts the ol' hands
I worked construction off and on for 15 years, then got a desk job 10 yrs ago. (I'm 41).
I had callouses for 15 years, then they all went away with the desk job.
I have no problems with my hands.
And, happily, my new-found appreciation for deadlifting has the callouses returning.
With due respect to your father, I just don't see what the concern is. It's just thicker skin.
"A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell." ~ C.S. Lewis
Tell your Dad to call me! I will explain it to him, PM me for the info. My dad is the toughest MFR that ever lived and he loves me liftin!
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Callouses are a point of pride among lifters, at least that's my understanding. I like it when I shake a man's hand and he instantly notices that I'm a strength trainer.
I tried the towel grip chin ups today... pretty damn challenging. I definitely felt it in my fingers.
Callouses ain't a bad thing. They're a necessary adaptation to lifting heavy ****. But seriously, grip the bar properly and they won't compress/rip.