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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    please tell me every reason why gloves are bad

    before i make my post, i want to say that i know gloves aren't optimal for grip strength (something i am trying to improve) and i do not want to wear them.

    I am 17 and my dad has been talking to some people about wearing gloves because i have been getting more callouses lately. He said they aren't good for my hands and that gloves will stop me from getting them, but i told him that i want to improve my grip strength and gloves will hold me back. Last session i deadlifted, and ended with static holds, so i had some pretty nasty ones. Does anyone know how i can convince him not to make me wear gloves? He wants to go get them on tuesday, and i would hate to have to buy a purse to match my gloves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRider23 View Post
    i would hate to have to buy a purse to match my gloves.

    Hahaha

    Just dont wear them? Does he watch you work out or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4g64fiero View Post
    Hahaha

    Just dont wear them? Does he watch you work out or something?
    not often, but my mom wants me to start doing some stuff with her because she's on a diet that is somewhat unhealthy. She's lost a lot of weight, but she's going to go to the gym with me soon and she'll probably make sure i wear the gloves lol.

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    lol try some tape or wrap your hands. if they have some chalk, that might help.i got the same problems but my dads not sayin anythin. goodluck
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    Why are callouses bad for your hands? If they tear that sucks ass just keep them filed down.
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    you're an intelligent guy... but you're also half #$%&ing crazy... and that my friend is the formula for a great powerlifter.
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    Tell your dad this:

    "Hey dad, what if I get stuck in the forest one day, and a bear is running after me, and I gotta climb up a tree? Am I supposed to tell the bear that's chasing me, 'hey bear, can you please wait one second while I put on some gloves so I don't tear my girly hands up while climbing this tree?'"

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure Water View Post
    Tell your dad this:

    "Hey dad, what if I get stuck in the forest one day, and a bear is running after me, and I gotta climb up a tree? Am I supposed to tell the bear that's chasing me, 'hey bear, can you please wait one second while I put on some gloves so I don't tear my girly hands up while climbing this tree?'"

    Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure Water View Post
    Tell your dad this:

    "Hey dad, what if I get stuck in the forest one day, and a bear is running after me, and I gotta climb up a tree? Am I supposed to tell the bear that's chasing me, 'hey bear, can you please wait one second while I put on some gloves so I don't tear my girly hands up while climbing this tree?'"

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    lol dude..... i actually said something like this to him;

    Dad, what if we go to Israel this summer and we're hiking and i fall off a cliff? I'll be forced to hang on for my life without my gloves, so i'll probably die sooner than if i were to hang on with no gloves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRider23 View Post
    lol dude..... i actually said something like this to him;

    Dad, what if we go to Israel this summer and we're hiking and i fall off a cliff? I'll be forced to hang on for my life without my gloves, so i'll probably die sooner than if i were to hang on with no gloves.
    And it didn't work eh?

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    Callous formation is exacerbated by the specific way you grip the bar...

    On dead lifts, try to grip the bar as deep as you can where the fingers attach to the palm. When you pull, gravity is pulling the bar down your hand. This tends to fold up your skin and compress it, forming a callous.

    If you have the bar already in a position where it can't slide down any further; you can prevent much callous formation.

    Callouses are only bad when they get so big they can rip off.
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    Eventually you should be able to develop your hands so they don't have problems hardly. Secondly if you are old enough to lift you are old enough to make your own decisions. Not trying to make you a disobedient child, but if you don't want to wear gloves, then don't wear them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raleighwood View Post
    Callous formation is exacerbated by the specific way you grip the bar...

    On dead lifts, try to grip the bar as deep as you can where the fingers attach to the palm. When you pull, gravity is pulling the bar down your hand. This tends to fold up your skin and compress it, forming a callous.

    If you have the bar already in a position where it can't slide down any further; you can prevent much callous formation.

    Callouses are only bad when they get so big they can rip off.
    thanks.. i'll give that a shot!

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    Eventually you should be able to develop your hands so they don't have problems hardly. Secondly if you are old enough to lift you are old enough to make your own decisions. Not trying to make you a disobedient child, but if you don't want to wear gloves, then don't wear them.
    yeah i wasn't going to wear them regardless unless he came with me.. just wanted to see what some people had to say so maybe i could convince him that they weren't good. I already had to convince him that deep squats were better than half squats, and he called Mark Rippetoe and got an earful haha.

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    I'm impressed that your father took the time to call Mark Rippetoe. You could certainly have him call again about the gloves. I'm sure he'd get another earful...

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    *Poor proprioception (just can't feel the weight)
    *by adding another layer, it increases the diameter you have to actually grip
    *no callous formation - callous protects the hand
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    Tell him if you get gloves then you have to get a matching purse!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMonkey View Post
    Tell him if you get gloves then you have to get a matching purse!
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    He already said that in the OP.
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    you're an intelligent guy... but you're also half #$%&ing crazy... and that my friend is the formula for a great powerlifter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasG View Post
    He already said that in the OP.
    But he didn't say it to his father.
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    gloves are bad because they are basically a flimsy piece of fabric between you and a heavy weight you have to control....just plain dangerous i think

    buy some chalk instead and chalk your hands for deadlifts, row, or anything that hurts the ol' hands

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    I worked construction off and on for 15 years, then got a desk job 10 yrs ago. (I'm 41).
    I had callouses for 15 years, then they all went away with the desk job.

    I have no problems with my hands.
    And, happily, my new-found appreciation for deadlifting has the callouses returning.

    With due respect to your father, I just don't see what the concern is. It's just thicker skin.
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    Tell your Dad to call me! I will explain it to him, PM me for the info. My dad is the toughest MFR that ever lived and he loves me liftin!
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    Callouses are a point of pride among lifters, at least that's my understanding. I like it when I shake a man's hand and he instantly notices that I'm a strength trainer.

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    I tried the towel grip chin ups today... pretty damn challenging. I definitely felt it in my fingers.
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    Callouses ain't a bad thing. They're a necessary adaptation to lifting heavy ****. But seriously, grip the bar properly and they won't compress/rip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rip.66. View Post
    Callouses are a point of pride among lifters, at least that's my understanding. I like it when I shake a man's hand and he instantly notices that I'm a strength trainer.
    Word. Only thing that sucks is when I'm caressing a female I'm always thinking they're thinkin my hands are rough. Whenever I ask if my hands are rough they say no though....
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    you're an intelligent guy... but you're also half #$%&ing crazy... and that my friend is the formula for a great powerlifter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRider23 View Post
    not often, but my mom wants me to start doing some stuff with her because she's on a diet that is somewhat unhealthy. She's lost a lot of weight, but she's going to go to the gym with me soon and she'll probably make sure i wear the gloves lol.
    wowww make sure the gloves match her purse while you hold it for her!!!!!!
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