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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Pros and Cons Between Conventional and Sumo Deadlifts

    I've been doing trap bar deadlifts for the past several months and am ready to get back into competitive style deadlifts. I've always used the conventional version in the past but have had people try to convince me to switch to sumo, citing reasons like better leverage, safer for the lower back, etc.

    When I've dabbled with sumo in the past, I have noticed I lift more conventionally. However, it was not a big discrepancy, and that may be partially explained by the fact that I had not trained much in sumo style.

    I am six feet tall with long limbs, which seem to favor the conventional form. However, I also have a tendency to round my upper back on limit lifts, which may lead to back problems down the road. (I don't round my back at all when pulling sumo.)

    Any experiences and/or observations regarding how to select deadlift form would be appreciated. Thanks.

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    Train them both.

    Use the one you can pull the most in a meet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamBAG View Post
    Train them both.

    Use the one you can pull the most in a meet.
    Agreed 100%.

    There's really no reason to make a personalized list about the pros and cons of them, whichever one you pull more using, use it in a meet.

    Training your opposite stance will make you stronger though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamBAG View Post
    Train them both.

    Use the one you can pull the most in a meet.
    Do this.
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    Great responses--thank you everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamBAG View Post
    Train them both.

    Use the one you can pull the most in a meet.
    Yup...ditto here! Plus training sumo can help carryover to squat! I often will sumo after squating as it incorporates similar muscles!

    and i will often front squat after conventional deads.....for same reason!!
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    My personal opion is sumo's are not really deadlifting. Watch the mechanics its more like a squat. If you are competeing in a powerlifting meet train the way your stronger in either sumo or conventional (no sense leaving pounds on the platform). If you want to get stronger pull conventional, work on your techinque and you won't have a back problem. If you do other types of strength events like Strongman sumo lifting isn't allowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CZERWIEC View Post
    My personal opion is sumo's are not really deadlifting. Watch the mechanics its more like a squat. If you are competeing in a powerlifting meet train the way your stronger in either sumo or conventional (no sense leaving pounds on the platform). If you want to get stronger pull conventional, work on your techinque and you won't have a back problem. If you do other types of strength events like Strongman sumo lifting isn't allowed.
    never heard anyone say that, not sure if I agree, but I can see the rationale.
    If it's a squat then it's a squat starting from bottom up, which is much harder.
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    I find them to be very different lifts. When training raw there is no doubt that my conventional deadlift is higher then my sumo, but once I add gear they are pretty close.

    nothing is a better feeling then grinding out a conventional deadlift though, sumos are often hit or miss while a conventional deadlift you get to grind. I find conventional deadlift is far less technique which is really nice to end a meet with, too.
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    Also even if I competed sumo I would do some conventional training especially if you ever want to do a local strongman show.
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    I'm a novice, so excuse me if this sounds ignorant. But I'm in the process of reading Starting Strength, and Rippetoe tackles this topic. The sumo stance is more of a leg workout than the standard deadlift. Like many of you have already stated, the sumo deadlift may translate more directly to squat improvements, and the sumo may be a better option for people who are dealing with a back injury.

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