I have been training seriously for 9 months now and have made steady progress on all parts with the exception of arms.
I have been carful not to overdo the volume and frequency, I think!
Average methods for arm training are 8-9 working sets in the 7-10 rep range every 5-6 days.
There was initial growth at the start, but then boom nothing for the last 4 months or so, not a millimetre in 4 months of dedicated training and eating like a horse and consuming the hundreds of pounds of quality supplementation.
Am I just never to have big arms? Am I too impatient? Or should I get drastic and try something completely off the wall in the way of training principles?
What else are you doing on your arm day? Its fairly hard to gauge what you may be doing wrong without a full workout posted. Have you done SS or a similar compound routine focusing on the big lifts?
Many people find the best day to train arms is on a day with big compound lifts, so you may want to do them on squat day. Either way, I think more info is needed before any conclusion is reached.
Last edited by nfraher; 03-03-2010 at 02:43 PM.
8 sets is way to much, I would try twice a week mon and friday-ample time for rest, 2 exercises for bis and 2 exercises for triceps. Low volume high weight. 2 or 3 sets maximum. Hit Biceps on back day "pull" after back training, and triceps after bench or "push"day. Arms are easily overtrained because they are involved in so many other movements. Me myself, I stopped working them out completely, except for dips and pull ups and they responded great.
No matter what your genetics are you can get bigger. If you train arms on a day by themselves you should be doing more. I train arms every wednesday by themselves. Lift heavy and do 12 sets for triceps and 12 sets for biceps. I don't worry about forearms because they get work on back day
Straight bar curls build biceps' mass
Close grip bench and weighted dips build triceps' mass
Last edited by TheRealDeal930; 03-03-2010 at 03:00 PM.
12 Sets is way to much.
Im young but am seeing results by what I am doing.
Im on SS. and Eating
So far ive only made gains.
Eat a lot and work hard on the big compounds, your arms will follow with the rest of your body.
Weight: 170 pounds, 3:30 p.m. on 4/13/10
So basically what I can deduce from the various replies is:
Strip it down from 8-9 sets to around 4-6 sets or even less and work on compound basic movements.
Other than Staright bar BB curls, Close grip benches, dips. What are the other compound arm movements? Or by compounds are you referring to squats, deads ect to induce overall growth?
What I have been doing I the past is for example:
3 sets of BB curls, 2 sets of hammer curls, 2 sets of preacher curls
3 sets of close grip benches, 3 sets of skull crushers, 3 sets of heavy pulldowns
Above is the usual arm routine I would do, obviously altering it a little here and there. I get a nice thick pump and stiff doms which is great but where the **** is the growth? Somethings being done incorrectly and I'm geting frustrated at not being able to see what it is.
Im only 16 but read a lot on this site, Look around this site for more help. Your question will get answered somewhere.
Weight: 170 pounds, 3:30 p.m. on 4/13/10
So, Smallarms, you have gained 44 lbs of bodyweight in 9 months? It took me 7-8 years of powerlifting to gain that much weight. I would say that is pretty amazing gains unless 43 lbs of it is fat, lol. What was your arm measurement to start?
Last edited by Chris Rodgers; 03-03-2010 at 09:41 PM.
Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
@165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
@181- 515 SQ 295 BE 570 DL.....1375 total
Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
@148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
@165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
@181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
515 SQ 302.5 BE 585 DL
I should mention I am 35 years old. 110kg. Arm measurments cold flexed are: Left just over 16" Right 16.5".
8-12 sets for biceps is good if you are doing an "arms day".
Squat briefs only 625 @ 210
Bench geared 525 @ 210
Deadlift geared 650 @ 220
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my arms have always responded better to high rep stuff that I get off my back days.
I haven't had a dedicated arms day in years and I have 18.5" arms
First thing you need to realize is progress is not linear and you will have plateaus and even regression sometimes depending on life. So you can't always expect gains all the time.
Some of the comments being made in this thread are very untrue. BB, DB, or cable; they all work and can be used to build size and should be used to train the muscle at different angles and ranges of motion for full development. Also its fine to have an arm day if hypertrophy is your goal and 12 sets is fine for each muscle. There is no magical rep range to build size as that come with time as well as gaining size all over. You can use anywhere from 6-15 reps for arms for great development. I have been surfing the curve for many years and I have 17.5 in arms relaxed and 19 in flexed at a bodyweight of 210lbs.
Ther is no one exercise for biceps or triceps that builds mass or rep range. Proper stimulation is needed for full development. Innervate the muscle correctly and train the muscle and not the movement will cause better development then just tarining for strength. Train correctly and strength will come so if your main goal is size don't focus soo much on how much is on the bar but how much stress the target muscle is under.
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Weight: 194 (Dieting to 9-10% BF )
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From what I can tell, that post told the OP to do exactly what he has already been doing but not seeing the results he was looking for. But perhaps you got more out of it than I did, so please explain it to me.
Hey Off Road, do you really gotta mess with everyone? That question could have very well been asked in a respective and curteous manner.
Last edited by skhandelwal; 03-06-2010 at 09:23 AM.
I am unclear how what Allen suggested is different than what the OP is currently doing? Also, some of the terms that Allen uses are unfamiliar to me. I've asked Allen about them before, but I still remain somewhat confused. Since you seem to understand it better than I, would you mind clearing it up for me?