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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Why are you doing high pulls instead of cleans? Have you watched the videos in the sticky?
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    yes i have, im not familiar with that exercise and the way its done it looks dangerous if not having somebody in the presence of knowing how to do it.
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    For that reason, if you can't do cleans you certainly shouldnt do high pulls. Learn to clean, you will be glad you did.
    Sarvamangalam!

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    Tom Mutaffis suggested high pulls to me when i first started
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    Plain and simple, high pulls are great accessories for the OLY lifts themselves and if you don't know how to clean then I can almost guarantee that you are not doing high pulls correctly. Do cleans.
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    will try. just dont like the jump in cleans. otherwise i would be doing them
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    Quote Originally Posted by aj24 View Post
    It must have been, ive had to deload.
    You probably would not have had to deload if you weren't doing all the acc work. Just do the program and cut out excess carbs. Lift heavy and hard. If you think it is not intense enough add more weight to the bar and/or shorten your rest times. Most people in your situation can progress til they are benching 1.5X ther BW and squatting close to 2X. If you gain more muscle you will look leaner. Look at some of the guys in the pic section,they are big and lean.

    To give you an example I just went back on strict SS so that I can cut and not die from all the extra volume I was doing.
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    This is what I mean. High pulls can be performed in a few different ways, but the best way to to do them like you are going to clean but not rack the bar. This means the bar will continue to rise and bend your arms for you. In continuing upward momentum you are forced to "jump". So, in a well performed high pull you will be "jumping" just as you would in a clean.
    Sarvamangalam!

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    alright, i understand. ill work on it
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    Quote Originally Posted by aj24 View Post
    Thats what I started with when I started. No accessory work. Now its not intense enough.
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    SS not intense?!?! Then you are not lifting enough.
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    It must have been, ive had to deload.
    +1 on Nicky's post.

    Also, I think Skinny is on to something, that the accessory work killed your gains/performance on SS.

    I'm working on my third month on SS and the thought of adding any accessory exercises makes me want to vomit. I'm just completely spent after the three lifts on every session.

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