The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness
Latest Article

The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
More Recent Articles
Contrast Training for Size
By: Lee Boyce
An Interview with Marianne Kane of Girls Gone Strong
By: Jordan Syatt
What Supplements Should I be Taking? By: Jay Wainwright
Bench Like a Girl By: Julia Ladewski
Some Thoughts on Building a Big Pull By: Christopher Mason

Facebook Join Facebook Group       Twitter Follow on Twitter       rss Subscribe via RSS
Results 1 to 15 of 15
  1. #1
    A gallon a day, everyday! ThomasG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    3,715

    Pulling heavy every week.

    Who does it? I recently switched to sumo and I recover from deads 10x faster. I don't feel beat up at all after sumos. Conventional I struggled with pulling heavy every other week.

    Now, I'm thinking of pulling heavy every week but on squat day just squat first then pull heavy.

    Something like

    Week 1 ME lower body
    Squat- work up to a max single
    Deadlift-heavy 3x5

    Week 2 me lower body
    Deadlift-Work up to a max single
    No heavy back squatting.

    Repeat.
    Last edited by ThomasG; 04-13-2010 at 12:23 PM.
    My Journal
    Quote Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    you're an intelligent guy... but you're also half #$%&ing crazy... and that my friend is the formula for a great powerlifter.
    23 Years old
    5'10 198'er
    Squat-565(wraps) 560(Raw)
    Bench:365(raw)
    Deadlift:555(raw)
    Front Squat-465x1 (wraps) 405x2 (raw)
    AtLarge Nutrition Optimize your body and Support WBB

  2.    Support Wannabebig and use AtLarge Nutrition Supplements!


  3. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    San Jose, CA
    Posts
    2,474
    I've found I can deadlift heavy 1-2 times a week if I use variants. I almost always do some type of heavy deadlifting on ME day. On DE day, I do speed one week and go heavy the next week. I tried to only do speed work every 3-4 weeks, and I got too slow off the floor.
    www.wildirongym.com
    Become a fan of Wild Iron on Facebook:
    http://tinyurl.com/WildIron

  4. #3
    A gallon a day, everyday! ThomasG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    3,715
    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusWild View Post
    I've found I can deadlift heavy 1-2 times a week if I use variants. I almost always do some type of heavy deadlifting on ME day. On DE day, I do speed one week and go heavy the next week. I tried to only do speed work every 3-4 weeks, and I got too slow off the floor.
    Interesting, thanks.
    My Journal
    Quote Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    you're an intelligent guy... but you're also half #$%&ing crazy... and that my friend is the formula for a great powerlifter.
    23 Years old
    5'10 198'er
    Squat-565(wraps) 560(Raw)
    Bench:365(raw)
    Deadlift:555(raw)
    Front Squat-465x1 (wraps) 405x2 (raw)
    AtLarge Nutrition Optimize your body and Support WBB

  5. #4
    Train Hardcore!!! muscle_g's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    South Carolina
    Posts
    1,645
    I normally hit deadlifts heavy after I do my heavy squatting. My next cycle I'm gonna deadlift 2 weeks on and 1 week off after squats.
    Train Hardcore

    Best Lifts(SQ/BP/DL)
    625/450/500 multi-ply
    520/405/500 single-ply
    405/315/475 raw

    Training log
    http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/thr...et-log-4-19-14

  6. #5
    Go Bears Pete22's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Chicago, IL
    Posts
    2,564
    I've found I can't go heavy every week, so I'll usually go:

    Week 1: Heavy Conventional Variation & Speed Pulls
    Week 2: Heavy Sumo Variation & Speed Pulls
    Week 3: Speed Pulls only
    Repeat
    My Training Log

    You want science and studies? **** you. I've got scars and blood and vomit. - Jim Wendler

  7. #6
    Wannabebig Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    31
    I do something similar to marcus. Fridays i always pull heavy sumo out of the pins after my squats, usually with chains. Mondays I go lighter usually standing on a platform conv or sldl.

  8. #7
    Wannabebig Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    31
    I do heavy convential deadlift movement every other week. I rotate snatch grip deadlift on platform, pin pulls from below knees and standard deadlift with chains. I usually perform RDL's and Good Mornings every week for reps. I hit Good Mornings heavy on the off week of deadlifts. Works good for me at 49 years old.

  9. #8
    Breaker of Skulls Guido's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    40N 88W
    Posts
    11,345
    I do a 4 week wave as part of 5-3-1 but still pull every week with the de-load every 4th week. It's worked fine and I don't usually feel beat up from pulling, even on the weeks where I'm squatting heavy, too.
    5'9" 195 lbs
    DL 600x1
    SQ 490x1 (raw)
    BP 430x1 (shirted), 320x1 (raw)
    SN 209x1 C+J 250x1


    My Training Journal
    www.illinipowerlifting.org

    "Most people don't want to learn new things. They only want to hear about things that validate crap they're already doing." - Mike Boyle

  10. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    703
    I do a 4-week wave as well just a little different...

    wk-1 DL speed pulls w/ bands
    wk-2 Hvy. goodmornings
    wk-3 DL heavy pulls
    wk-4 deload

    all done after sqauts

  11. #10
    Wannabebig Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Vegas
    Posts
    8
    A 3 week wave has worked well for us.

    week 1: conventional variant for a 3 RM
    week 2: same, for a 1 RM
    week 3: sumo speed pulls in briefs

    After every 3rd week we change the movement (deficit deads, reverse band etc.)

    We do squats 3 days before.

  12. #11
    I Wanna Taco johnnyo_99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    1,172
    i don't have set rotation for deadlifts..i've been going by feel. heavy deadlifts are very taxing. however I do fit in accessory deadlift movements often.

  13. #12
    THE 800 QUEST NickAus's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    7,677
    I try to do very similar to Marcus.
    Squat briefs only 625 @ 210
    Bench geared 525 @ 210
    Deadlift geared 650 @ 220

    Captains of Crush #3

    Building Mighty Mitts...

  14. #13
    Resolute -JM-'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Posts
    4,581
    I pull heavy twice a week but only once from the floor and its going well so far.
    This is the true joy in life, the being used for a purpose recognized by yourself as a mighty one; the being thoroughly worn out before you are thrown on the scrap heap; the being a force of Nature instead of a feverish selfish little clod of ailments and grievances complaining that the world will not devote itself to making you happy - George Bernard Shaw

  15. #14
    Wannabebig Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    21
    Everything works but no program works forever.
    If you like what your doing keep it going.
    Just remember the truth always falls somewhere in the middle of what your thinking and what's practical.

  16. #15
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    1,987
    If I were to do(I dont) I would def do it after squatting.
    Best Lifts unequipped
    765
    505
    755
    Best lifts Equipped
    1050
    840
    715

    Thankfully Representing AtLarge Nutrition and EliteFTS

Similar Threads

  1. Heavy ab work- how many times per week?
    By NickAus in forum Powerlifting and Strength Training
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: 06-21-2010, 06:15 PM
  2. Warming up your lower back for heavy pulling
    By Brian C in forum Powerlifting and Strength Training
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 03-14-2010, 07:14 AM
  3. Is horizontal pulling really necessary (compared to vertical pulling)
    By MPB in forum Powerlifting and Strength Training
    Replies: 27
    Last Post: 04-27-2009, 08:50 PM
  4. too heavy each week?
    By roots in forum Powerlifting and Strength Training
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 07-05-2008, 10:25 PM
  5. Training Heavy Week To Week
    By MonStar in forum Bodybuilding & Weight Training
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 12-16-2002, 06:40 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •