Who does it? I recently switched to sumo and I recover from deads 10x faster. I don't feel beat up at all after sumos. Conventional I struggled with pulling heavy every other week.
Now, I'm thinking of pulling heavy every week but on squat day just squat first then pull heavy.
Week 1 ME lower body
Squat- work up to a max single
Week 2 me lower body
Deadlift-Work up to a max single
No heavy back squatting.
I've found I can deadlift heavy 1-2 times a week if I use variants. I almost always do some type of heavy deadlifting on ME day. On DE day, I do speed one week and go heavy the next week. I tried to only do speed work every 3-4 weeks, and I got too slow off the floor.
I normally hit deadlifts heavy after I do my heavy squatting. My next cycle I'm gonna deadlift 2 weeks on and 1 week off after squats.
I've found I can't go heavy every week, so I'll usually go:
Week 1: Heavy Conventional Variation & Speed Pulls
Week 2: Heavy Sumo Variation & Speed Pulls
Week 3: Speed Pulls only
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I do something similar to marcus. Fridays i always pull heavy sumo out of the pins after my squats, usually with chains. Mondays I go lighter usually standing on a platform conv or sldl.
I do heavy convential deadlift movement every other week. I rotate snatch grip deadlift on platform, pin pulls from below knees and standard deadlift with chains. I usually perform RDL's and Good Mornings every week for reps. I hit Good Mornings heavy on the off week of deadlifts. Works good for me at 49 years old.
I do a 4 week wave as part of 5-3-1 but still pull every week with the de-load every 4th week. It's worked fine and I don't usually feel beat up from pulling, even on the weeks where I'm squatting heavy, too.
I do a 4-week wave as well just a little different...
wk-1 DL speed pulls w/ bands
wk-2 Hvy. goodmornings
wk-3 DL heavy pulls
all done after sqauts
A 3 week wave has worked well for us.
week 1: conventional variant for a 3 RM
week 2: same, for a 1 RM
week 3: sumo speed pulls in briefs
After every 3rd week we change the movement (deficit deads, reverse band etc.)
We do squats 3 days before.
I try to do very similar to Marcus.
Squat briefs only 625 @ 210
Bench geared 525 @ 210
Deadlift geared 650 @ 220
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I pull heavy twice a week but only once from the floor and its going well so far.
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If I were to do(I dont) I would def do it after squatting.
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