The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness
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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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  1. #1
    Wannabebig Member David Lewis's Avatar
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    Change bench style between raw and shirted workouts????

    Does anyone change the way they bench between their raw workout days and their shirted workout days? I have had a tendency to bench in the body building style when I am lifting raw. My elbows are out and the bar moves in a straight path off the chest. When I bench in the shirt I have a groove that takes me quite low and forces my elbows to tuck.

    I have tried benching raw in the shirted style, but do not have anywhere the strength. I feel very uncomfortable and weak when I get into an arch when not in the shirt. Is this normal or should I really concentrate on bringing the bar low when I am raw lifting even if my numbers go way down?

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    Westside Bencher Travis Bell's Avatar
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    I bench raw with a slight tuck, good solid arch, but I don't bring the bar down quite so low.

    If you bring it too low when benching raw it'll hurt your shoulders. I stick to around the upper abdomen area

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    I keep my raw and equipped form the same. I find both my raw and equipped have improved as a result. However, most of the guys I train with say don't do what Vinny does.

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    I did what Vinny does,

    I kept them the same as equipped benching was my main goal so I benched raw with my shirted stroke.

    I find now that Im raw all the time I still bench with my shirted stroke as it took years to perfect that stroke.
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    Senior Member IronDiggy's Avatar
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    I generally bench with a slight tuck raw and really tuck when I am in a shirt.
    Close grip is almost always elbows out though.
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    Pro Powerlifter AJ Roberts's Avatar
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    I tend to bench raw with closer grip and keep the bar higher so that my arms do most of the work as i find this carries over best for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Roberts View Post
    I tend to bench raw with closer grip and keep the bar higher so that my arms do most of the work as i find this carries over best for me.
    I was taught how to bench wrong and I tried to bench wrong for years. A couple of years ago, I finally learned how to bench. Now, there isn't much difference between my RAW and shirted bench strokes if any at all. I might be just a little bit flatter in a closed back shirt because the closed back shirt seems to pull me down just a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Roberts View Post
    I tend to bench raw with closer grip and keep the bar higher so that my arms do most of the work as i find this carries over best for me.
    Agreed... Pinkie on the rings while raw, works the tri's a lot more to assist w/ the lock-out in the shirt. Index finger on rings while shirted.

    Set-up and arch are basically the same.

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