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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Smeagol on Steroids Mercuryblade's Avatar
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    A different kind of exhausted...

    In the past I've been doing the WBB routines.

    HCT doesn't give me the same post-workout weakness that they have, I can still walk up stairs without my legs shaking, turn my steering wheel without my pecs hurting, and take a shower without my triceps aching.

    But, I have a new type of fatigue, my body just feels exhausted... I can't quite put my finger on it. My motivation is still there but I feel way more spent than I ever have.

    Anyone else having a similar experience? Just curious...
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    What type of diet are you on at the moment?
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    No.

    I've actually been getting more DOMS - which I attribute to the clusters - but I feel much more fresh during the rest of the day and my days off than when I did 5x5 or work in the 1-5rm range.

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    I had the exact same thing happen. Make sure you are eating right, getting enough sleep, and not taking every lift to failure. If you have to, insert an extra rest day every now and then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Clough View Post
    What type of diet are you on at the moment?
    I'm trying to do a really slow bulk.
    I'm taking in about 200g protein and am eating about 300 calories above maintenance.

    It's definitely working, my lifts-with the exception of weighted pull-ups have all increased, but my body feels wrecked.

    I also just started taking beta alanine, so maybe stacking that with the creatine is making me push my body to levels I haven't in the past.

    Quote Originally Posted by Off Road
    I had the exact same thing happen. Make sure you are eating right, getting enough sleep, and not taking every lift to failure. If you have to, insert an extra rest day every now and then.
    Have you gone through the deload phase yet?
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    Recovery, how one responds to failure and frequency is one of the few truly individualised aspects of training in my experience.
    The small sample above and in other threads (not just HCT-12) is evidence of people's variable reaction to different training stimuli.
    Excluding other variables - life stresses, sleep quality, food intake - my advice would be to avoid failure. Look for quality, smooth reps, avoiding that last one or two straining gasping last reps. It might seem counterintuitive and for some an opportunity to slack off but if done properly will lessen the overall impact on the body and improve progression.
    That's not to say one should never push to failure but at these loads/rep ranges plus the rest-pause it may be more stimulation than is required for some.

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    when's the last time you took a real break from training?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercuryblade View Post
    Have you gone through the deload phase yet?
    I'm going through the deload right now (this week).
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCD View Post
    when's the last time you took a real break from training?
    I took a little over a week off before starting HCT.
    It's really hard to think about because I'm making so much progress but taking another breather might be in order after I deload.
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    I might be able to assist. It's quite possible you have a Zinc deficiency. I know At Large ETS has Zinc in there, and if you take them before bedtime on an empty stomach (this is the key), you'll wake up in the morning feeling incredibly refreshed. You won't be sore, and your energy levels in the gym will rise.

    Personally, I buy a $10 bottle (30 day supply) of ZMA on eBay. It's cheap and worked. Your call.

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    Looks to me like HCT is kicking our ass...

    Mercury I had a similar thing happen to me. I was on the 4 day routine but my body just couldn't take it. I was physically exausted coming in on week 4. I just finished my deload...Today was an excellent session. I really feel so much better. I'm starting back on the 3 day routine and going from there.
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