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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Question: unable to complete 2,2,2 - too much weight?

    Im finding that in some exercises, particularly pressing ones, that im able to do 6,2 and then possibly 2, but even then this is a struggle. Today I managed 6,2,1 in my ohp, even though the first set felt comfortable enough. Is this a case of me using too much weight, or just having poor endurance? I have no issues with this in squats or rows/chins etc, only ohp and benching seem to be effected. I tried adding more rest, but the problem remains.

    So would it be an idea to cut down the weight by another 10% or so and begin to work up?

    Thanks.

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    Funny, I find the first cluster of 2's to be the hardest. The other two final sets seem to get easier and I end up taking shorter rests between them.
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    My preference would be to reduce the load a touch as you suggest so that you can complete the reps. Depending on what loads you're pressing 10% might be too much of a reduction. You say comfortable, so I don't know whether that means you had another rep in the tank or whether you comfortably did a true 6RM, but my advice would be leave a rep or two in the tank and avoid slow grinding reps.

    Your strength and conditioning will eventually catch-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Roberts View Post
    My preference would be to reduce the load a touch as you suggest so that you can complete the reps. Depending on what loads you're pressing 10% might be too much of a reduction. You say comfortable, so I don't know whether that means you had another rep in the tank or whether you comfortably did a true 6RM, but my advice would be leave a rep or two in the tank and avoid slow grinding reps.

    Your strength and conditioning will eventually catch-up.
    Comfortable meant with another rep in the tank today. Im using 125lbs at the moment, which ive dropped from 135lbs because Ive stalled there.
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    This helps you none, but I'm the very same way on OHP.
    I can't seem to get the very last sets of 2's after 115 x 6.
    It felt easier today, though. So I think I'm still moving forward on it.


    Steve probably answered it for you (us).
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    Not just me then

    I wonder if dropping the weight as I go would help? Using 125/130 for 6,2 and then dropping by 5lbs or so for each of the last 2 sets?
    130x6
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    120x2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Roberts View Post
    My preference would be to reduce the load a touch as you suggest so that you can complete the reps.

    ^ I'd take this guy's advice. ^
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    Workout partner and I have been doing the program for about 2 months and I usually take 15-45 sec rest between the clusters and never really had a problem with them. Bar speed wasn't as fast but I didn't ever really need a spot for the 2's, even if I missed a rep on the working set. My workout buddy was having a problem with that though, he'd miss cluster reps but be consistently hitting his 6's. I'm not sure what he changed but about 1-2 weeks ago he stopped missing the clusters too. I think he's just eating more :P
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    Not sure if this will help you, but I have since tackled 115 x 6 +2 +2 +2 since my last post here.

    Maybe you just need a few more sessions with it.
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    I found i had that same problem on Bench, OH Press and Deadlifts,

    I have now managed to get it down so i oly get it now and again with OH press and that is normally getting the weight from the floor to fully extended the first time.

    Listen to Daniel mate it will come
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