Bare foot for the win baby...
I always used some type of sneaker/cross trainer for >25 years... regular old BB'ing lifting it didn't really seem to matter... but when the heavy lifting/powerlifting bug hit me, I switched to Chucks and they were a life saver... couldn't lift in socks at my gym... and then I found the vibrams about 18 months ago
The vibrams are awesome... I have 2 pairs.. one for indoors, one for outdoors... so the gym I lift at doesn't complain about it...
The indoor pair I've had for almost 16 months... 3-4 days a week in the gym... heavy, dynamic, whatever they are used fulltime... I have no ripping, tearing, almost no damage except for scuff marks..
.... there is no heel, so I have no idea what Liftersize is talking about..
I've competed in them, both PL and Strongman competitions... even the WBB contest last winter....
.... many squats over 550, DLs over 580.. I know it's not that heavy, but add in my 250 lbs and wide feet and you know that the shoe can handle a lot of stress...
The outdoor pair I've used for all kinds of stuff... walking a whole day at an amusement park... all strongman events... pulling & pulling sleds/cars/trucks.. walking in rivers.. many yoke runs over 800...
...Just recently I started doing my sprints in them - on a track and on a field... this you have to work up to.. because you need to learn a more natural stride/foot impact...
... I have a extra wide foot and not feels better on the feet..
Here is where the Vibrams may not be the best shoe:
- really slick surfaces... strongman events on a rainy surface... the vibrams are not designed with the best grip.. so use rock climbing shoes or something for truck pulls in the rain...
- some overhead stuff... a small elevated heel can help a lot of folks when they are doing OLifts, Log Presses, etc... perhaps for front squats too, but I use plates under my heels and have gone up to 410 this way..
- people too lazy to wash them... if you let them go to long between washes, you will stick up everything around... I haven't tried the socks yet, but I hear they help with the smell a lot..
- impatient people... who try to run to far in them the first day... look up barefoot running on Google... we've all been running unnaturally for out lifes because of our padded heels... you will need to change your running when you go barefoot... slowly... or you will experience a lot of issues
- Vibrams are not going to replace specialized shoes.. like football/baseball cleats... Basketball/Volleyball shoes.. etc... but for training, there is nothing better then barefoot/Vibrams..
Barefoot/Vibrams... your joints will love you for it.. my ankle, knees and hip have never felt better...
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I'm able to find toed-socks in Japan - they've been popular there for years. They're cotton. Luckily, I don't have big feet, or long toes and the sock sizes available in Japan are fine for me.
My guess is that it should be possible to find alternative brands made of cotton in U.S. and Europe via the internet, but I'm not sure.
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i gonna pick up a pair of the KSO's this weekend and give them a shot. seems like durability on that model isn't really an issue.
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Didnt try this till my last squat session as well. Holy shnikies! My weight went up a couple pounds and i felt 10x more stable and in control and safe!
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For me, it's been chucks for squats, barefoot for deadlifts, however after seeing this post, I'm going to have to try barefoot for squats now and see how that feels. As worn as my chucks are, I'm basically barefoot anyway, ha.
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Arnold, and Ed Corney, squatted barefoot in Pumping Iron. I always wondered if that was for real, or for theatrical showmanship?
i squat and deadlift barefoot every time.
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I deadlift in oly shoes and it actually feels better than barefoot. Apparently the foot angle allows for greater quad recruitment which can result in better pulling, even though the higher angle increases the distance of the pull. As I get stronger I might switch to deadlifting barefoot. For squatting, oly shoes make all the difference. My technique is instantly better wearing them.
Like Offroad, I squat in boots. I use the ones made by Steve Cardillo - and one of his belts as well.
Barefoot or Vibrams are the way to go, totally agree
Never tried squatting barefoot. Maybe I could give it a try or buy some of those "skinny shoes".
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I've been working out 3-4 times a week in Vibram Bikila's for a year. They're amazingly durable. I squat, Olympic lift, tons of jump rope, etc, and lots of things that involve maneuvering around and such. Great shoes. It's important to get a pair with the right tread based on the terrain/surfaces you'll be working in.
want to try it barefoot but most gyms refuse due to insurance policies.gonna try it at my friends gym when no other members are there.def wanna give those vibrams a try.all my friends on other boards that use them swear by them now...
i was deadlifting tonight and remembered seeing this thread so i took my shoes off (chucks) and i could hardly believe how much better it felt in socks. ill definitely try my squats at the end of this week in my socks too, hopefully it makes as big of a difference as it did in my deads.
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Barefoot or Vibrams. I cannot squat any other way. Had reconstructive knee surgery and completely natural movements are the only exercises that aren't painful to me. Squats have helped immensely with recovery.
I would recommend squatting without socks on simply because you have less traction and your feet don't grip as well when you're wearing socks.i was deadlifting tonight and remembered seeing this thread so i took my shoes off (chucks) and i could hardly believe how much better it felt in socks. ill definitely try my squats at the end of this week in my socks too, hopefully it makes as big of a difference as it did in my deeds.
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I love how gyms require you to wear shoes as if dropping say a 45 pound weight (or even a 10 pound weight) on a shoe is going to save a toe. Physics is fun.