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It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    My HCT-12, summer 2010 log. #15

    Hey guys, so i decided to switch to HCT-12 as my summer workout program, the routine I use to do was a 5 X 5. I'm pretty new to these forums, but I have been reading around here for a while. A little bit of a background on me, I'm a Division II baseball player, 19 years old. I stand 5'10" and weigh around 175 lbs.

    My general goal from this program is to gain as much lean muscle mass as I can(while staying flexible, I'm a pitcher). I'm very excited to start up with this program after reading the Key Principles to Growth article.

    Here are my current(pre HCT-12) max stats:
    Bench: 245
    Squat: 335
    Deadlift: 375


    Oh, I would like to thank everyone on this site for actually being helpful and knowledgeable, unlike most weightlifting sites.

    Here are some before pics:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Off Road View Post
    Looking forward to seeing your progress.
    I'm looking forward to see how this program works out for you as well. How did the first day of it feel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chand006 View Post
    How did the first day of it feel?
    The press felt pretty tough, but the dips and curls felt pretty easy. I'm sure it will get very tough as the weights progress.
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    Day 1: 5/10/10
    So I did a semi version of the HCT-12, today my friend and I decided to max, since summer break starts tomorrow. But we didn't decide to max until after we already did a couple work sets, so I might have been able to push up a little more. But since we maxed I didn't get to do the 6+2+2+2 on the bench, but I did apply that on all of my other lifts(man that is tough). Anyway I maxed out at 245, which is what the bench max chart had me at.

    I weighed myself before lifting today so I would have an accurate measure before starting HCT, weighed in at 167.

    My lifts:
    Horizontal Pressing- Flat Bench
    Bar x 2
    135 x 5
    185 x 5
    205 x 8
    245 x 1
    255 x fail
    205 x 6
    185 x 5

    Triceps- Skull Crushers-
    65 x 6
    85 x 6
    85 x 6
    85 x 6 + 2 + 2 + 2
    Vertical Pressing- DB Shoulder Press-
    50's x 6
    60's x 6
    60's x 6
    60's x 6 + 2 + 2 + 0(just couldn't do anymore)
    Vertical Pulling- Chin-ups
    x 8
    x 10
    x 10
    x 6 + 2 + 2 + 2
    Horizontal Pulling- Barbell Rows
    135 x 6
    155 x 6
    175 x 6
    175 x 6 + 2 + 1 + 1(To much weight, will get it next time though!!!)

    I really liked the 6 + 2 + 2 + 2 sets, they were killers! I can't wait to see how this progresses.
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    Nice start. Wondering why you put the triceps work before the shoulder work?
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    Exicted to see you start HCT-12 chand006!

    What program are you doing - 1, 2 or 3?
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    Nice session, looking forward to your progress as well. My bench is at 245 also so I will be waiting to see your bench workouts.

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    Hmmm, we're pretty close stats-wise. Same height, but it looks like you're leaner than me. I'll be following along, looking forward to it!
    5'10"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Clough View Post
    Exicted to see you start HCT-12 chand006!

    What program are you doing - 1, 2 or 3?
    Hey Daniel, I am running program 2. I want to thank you for the routine, I have a feeling it's is going to help the ones performing it progress a lot!

    Quote Originally Posted by Off Road View Post
    Nice start. Wondering why you put the triceps work before the shoulder work?
    Off Road I think it just kind of happened that way because my lifting partner went straight to those. But next time I am definitely going to do shoulder presses first.


    Oh I am planning to start posting about my nutritional intake in a couple days. I would start posting about it now, but due to the fact I'm at school and it's the last week I haven't been eating as much as I should(I don't want to have to take a lot of extra food home). But I plan on eating roughly 2800-3200 calories a day, on a clean diet when I get home for the summer.

    Cheers guys!
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    Look forward to seeing the diet!
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    Day 2: 5/11
    Lift B

    Over all today felt pretty solid, hopefully will be able to get the 2's on the deadlift all the way next time. I can say that my legs are definitely going to be sore tomorrow! Here is what I did:

    Hip Dominant- Deadlift
    135 x 6
    185 x 6
    225 x 6
    275 x 6
    315 x 6
    295 x 6
    295 x 6 + 2 + 1 + 1

    Quad Dominant- Leg press(had to use a machine thing, not an actual legpress, it's old so the numbers are faded away, therefore I'm unsure about the weight.)
    x 6
    x 6
    x 6
    x 6 + 2 + 2 + 2

    Calf Exercise Calve press(on same machine as leg presses)
    x 6
    x 6
    x 6
    x 6 + 2 + 2 + 2

    Biceps E=Z Barl Preacher Curls
    85 x 8
    95 x 6
    95 x 6
    85 x 6 + 2 + 2 + 2

    Abs Barbell Rollouts
    x 8
    x 8
    x 8
    x 8 + 2 + 2 + 2

    Abs Decline crunches with 45lb Plate
    x 8
    x 8
    x 8
    x 8 + 2 + 2 + 2
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    Looks like a good effort, but maybe you should have clustered the 315 on the deadlift and the 95 on the curls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Off Road View Post
    Looks like a good effort, but maybe you should have clustered the 315 on the deadlift and the 95 on the curls.
    What do you mean by cluster? The 2's?
    Thanks for the advice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chand006 View Post
    What do you mean by cluster? The 2's?
    Thanks for the advice!
    Yes, the 2's. You should be ending on your top weight, then adding the 2's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Off Road View Post
    Yes, the 2's. You should be ending on your top weight, then adding the 2's.
    K. Thanks I'll do that next time for sure.
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    Haven't been able to post in a while. But I'm just letting ya'll know I am still doing my workouts. I am planning on posting them this weekend, just to busy at the moment.
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    Here are journals of my last two workouts:
    A
    Horizontal Press: Bench
    135 x 6
    185 x 6
    205 x 6
    205 x 6
    205 x 6 + 2 + 2 + 2
    205 x 6 + 2 + 1

    Vertical Press: DB Shoulder Press
    60's x 6
    60's x 6
    60's x 6
    60's x 6

    Triceps: Extensions
    60 x 6
    80 x 6
    75 x 6
    75 x 6 + 2 + 2 + 2
    75 x 6 + 2 + 2 + 2

    Horizontal Pull: BB Rows
    135 x 6
    185 x 6
    185 x 6
    185 x 6 + 2 + 2 + 2

    Vertical Pull: Chin Ups
    x 8
    x 8
    x 6
    x 6 + 2 + 2 + 2

    B

    Hip Dominant: Deadlift
    135 x 6
    205 x 6
    225 x 6
    275 x 6
    315 x 6
    315 x 6
    315 x 6+ 2 + 2 + 2

    Leg Press:
    135 x 6
    245 x 6
    445 x 6
    535 x 6
    535 x 6
    535 x 6 + 2 + 2 + 2
    535 x 4(Couldn't Do anymore)

    Calves:
    135 x 6
    135 x 6
    135 x 6
    135 x 6 + 2 + 2 + 2


    Biceps: E-Z Bar Preacher Curls
    85 x 8
    95 x 6
    95 x 6
    95 x 6 + 2 + 2 + 2
    95 x 6 + 2 + 2 + 2

    Abs: Rollouts and Weighted Crunches
    x 8 - 45 x 8
    x 8 - 45 x 8
    x 8 - 45 x 8
    x 8 + 2 + 2 + 2 - 45 x 8 + 2 + 2 + 2

    I still have more workouts to add. Overall the program has been working great, I feel stronger every time I walk into the gym.
    Last edited by chand006; 05-20-2010 at 05:26 PM.
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    Todays lift was the B workout of the 4 day set. Here is what I did

    Hip Dominant: Deadlift
    135 x 6
    225 x 6
    275 x 6
    315 x 6
    315 x 6
    335 x 6 + 2 + 2 + 1

    Quad Dominant: Leg Press
    245 x 6
    445 x 6
    535 x 6
    625 x 6
    715 x 5
    715 x 5
    715 x 5
    715 x 5 + 2 + 2 + 2

    Biceps: E-Z Bar Curls
    85 x 8
    95 x 8
    95 x 8
    95 x 8
    95 x 8 + 2 + 2 + 2

    Abs: Rollouts and Weighted Crunches
    x 8 - 45 x 8
    x 8 - 45 x 8
    x 8 - 45 x 8
    x 8 + 2 + 2 + 2 - 45 x 8 + 2 + 2 + 2

    My leg press SHOT up! I went in today thinking I would do 625 for my final worksets, but I ended up doing 715.( I think I might have been able to do more) So we'll see what I am going to do next time. Today was simply a great workout!
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    Good job on the leg press!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Clough View Post
    Good job on the leg press!
    Thanks Daniel!

    Here is what I did today:

    A
    Horizontal Press: Bench
    135 x 6
    185 x 6
    205 x 6
    215 x 6
    215 x 6 + 2 + 2 + 2
    215 x 6 + 2 + 1 + 0

    Vertical Press: DB Shoulder Press
    60's x 6
    60's x 6
    60's x 6
    60's x 6
    65's x 6 + 2 + 2 + 2

    Triceps: Weighted Dips
    Body x 6
    45 lb plate x 6
    45 lb plate x 6
    45 lb. + 25 lb. plates x 6 + 2 + 2 + 2
    45 lb. + 25 lb. plates x 6 + 2 + 2 + 2

    Horizontal Pull: BB Rows
    135 x 6
    185 x 6
    205 x 6
    205 x 6 + 2 + 2 + 2

    Vertical Pull: Chin Ups
    x 8
    x 8
    x 8
    x 8 + 2 + 2 + 2

    Accessory Work
    Chest Flies:
    60's x 6
    60's x 6
    60's x 6
    60's x 6 + 2 + 2 + 2
    Tricep Extensions:
    140 x 6
    140 x 6
    140 x 6
    140 x 6
    Cable Flies
    37.5's x 6
    37.5's x 6
    37.5's x 6
    37.5's x 6
    37.5's x 8

    Like I said in a earlier post, I feel stronger every time I walk into the gym. I have noticed a change in my physique, but I am not the only one, some friends have noticed it as well. I am in love with the program, and I can not wait to go tomorrow to see if my leg press will shoot up again!!!
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    Why two top sets instead of one heavier set?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Off Road View Post
    Why two top sets instead of one heavier set?
    I really like the way the cluster sets feel, so I tried throwing in a couple cluster sets last week and loved it.

    I was planning on doing accessory work today so I did not want to annihilate myself on the bench. I wanted to switch it up a bit, since I haven't been doing to many accessory exercises with this program.(I don't think accessory lifts are necessary with HCT-12 though, so I will probably only do them every other week)
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    Oh, today I weighed myself and did a BF%:
    Weight: 174.7
    BF: 8.8%

    So I have gone up over seven and half pounds, and my BF% has gone down a point or two.... it has only been two weeks!!!

    I plan on posting progress pics every four weeks during during the deload weeks. I don't know if these results will keep coming, but I am loving them while they are here.
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    Lift B

    Hip Dominant- Deadlift
    135 x 6
    185 x 6
    225 x 6
    275 x 6
    315 x 6
    335 x 6
    335 x 6 + 2 + 1 + 1

    Quad Dominant- Leg press
    90 x6
    200 x 6
    400 x 6
    580 x 6
    670 x 6
    760 x 6
    760 x 6
    760 x 6
    760 x 6 + 2 + 2 + 2

    Calf Exercise Calve press
    135 x 6
    185 x 6
    225 x 6
    245 x 6
    275 x 6
    275 x 6

    Biceps E=Z Barl Preacher Curls
    85 x 8
    95 x 6
    95 x 6
    95 x 6
    95 x 6 + 2 + 2 + 2

    Abs Barbell Rollouts
    x 8
    x 8
    x 8
    x 8
    x 8 + 2 + 2 + 2

    Abs Decline crunches with 45lb Plate
    x 8
    x 8
    x 8
    x 8 + 2 + 2 + 2

    Today felt really good, was an intense workout. My leg press went up again which I am very happy about!

    Nutrition: As of 11:30 am

    Breakfast
    Multi Vitamin
    Fish Oil
    B12 Complex
    20 oz of Water

    4 Cups Skim Milk
    2 Cup Oatmeal
    1 apple
    1 orange

    (LIFT) *3 bottles of water while lifting

    Post work-out Shake(N.O. Charger)

    Brunch
    3 Whole Eggs + 4 Egg whites
    Cup of Cheddar Cheese(melted on eggs)
    1 Apple
    Side Salad
    Liter of Water
    Last edited by chand006; 05-25-2010 at 10:50 AM.
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