When you watch this video...and you drive the hip up like he is talking about...I dont understand at what point you actually stand up straight and erect. When I do the hip drive it causes me to be bent over at the top of the lift and it just seems awkward?
I think a lot of people bend too far forward when trying to initiate hip drive. Just a slight bend, not even CLOSE to a good morning like some people say. I break my hips first, then knees follow. Hard to explain, but once you get it you'll know. You just get into a groove.
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"Hip drive" in the sense Rippetoe uses really means nothing more than extending the knees and hips out of the hole without changing the back angle, as opposed to lifting the chest too soon which will kill hamstring tension (as explained in the video).
^^^Well said. It's not as difficult as it seems. Think about the mechanics of the lift as you come up out of the whole. Instead of thinking of several independant, mechanical moves, think of them as seemless moves together.
Give chalk a chance.
49 years old
I hear what Ripptoe is saying about hip drive, and how going chest up takes tension off the hips when coming out the hole,
BUT the idea of keeping the head tilted downward, looking down just bugs me.
when that weight gets heavy as in powerlifting type singles and doubles, I see guy falling forward face to the ground with that head position.
Last edited by Rugby Dad; 08-14-2010 at 03:36 AM.
IMO, people overthink the cues. It will probably come around if you squat consistently and mindfully. I realize that I'm part of the problem when it comes to squat form naziism, but cues are simply cues/tips to prod you closer to optimal technique. Cues are not dogma and not actual technique.
A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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However, this was a beneficial video to watch, as Rippetoe has coached the young fellow about keeping his back, and elbows up. And his remarks about the chest coming up too soon, and taking the stress from the hamstrings makes a lot of good sense. This is a good video.
You can't really get from A to Z without over thinking the cues though imo, because so many of us start out with bad form, and terrible advice that we have to unlearn (knees shouldn't go past toes, going past parallel is unsafe, etc. etc.).
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