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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Ed coan deadlift cycle

    I come here all the time but rarely post. I prefer to lay low and just absorb all of the good info. In april I competed in a tactical strength challenge. Max attempt deadlift, max reps on pullups and a 5 min kettlebell snatch test. I weighed in at 150. I pulled 405. Right now I'm getting ready for the next one in sept. If it works well I plan on another cycle to take me up to a meet in dec. I am in week 5 of the Coan/Phillipi deadlift cycle. So far its been brutally hard. Has anyone here used it before? If so, what were your results? Thanks in advance.

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    thats a great pull and congrats. TSC is something I'm looking to get into, could you post the ed coan deadlift cycle by any chance?

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    Sorry dude. Here is the link for the calculator. Just input your current max and your desired max. It will give you a cycle.

    http://tsampa.org/training/scripts/c...lipi_deadlift/

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    One my fellow PL team members just finished a cycle fo the Ed Coan routine to bring up his raw deadlift and it worked very well for him. He went from a 550 raw pull up to 573 during the cycle (weighing ~170), so I'd say it worked as before that his DL hadn't gone up in a year or more. And yes, it is brutally hard.
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    When I used it, my deadlift did go up. My squat and bench didn't really move though, because the deadlift training was killing me. Since you only really care about deadlift, it should work.
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    Thanks. So far, I've still been able to train the other power lifts. It seems o.k. as long as I keep the volume low and space things out. I really liked using 5/3/1 but it got to the point that I had trouble with recovery even at 3 days a week. I gradually moved towards more of a westside feel with the exception of the dl cycle. Seems to be working pretty good. All of my lifts are moving up. Right now this is my schedule:

    Mon: Coan dl cycle
    Tues: rest
    Wed: ME upper body
    Thurs: DE lower body
    Fri: rest
    Sat: DE/RE upper body
    Sun: rest

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    I was curious if there are alot of warmups to this cycle. Can someone detail a typical deadlift day?

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    I just warm up like a regular DL day. Go to the link posted above, once you input your numbers, it will break down the complete workout.
    Quote Originally Posted by basbolstar View Post
    I was curious if there are alot of warmups to this cycle. Can someone detail a typical deadlift day?

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    How are you training the other lifts? I've known people that have ran this before and they didnt squat (although squat was maintained by the coan program) but did smolov jr for bench training. Worked well for a lot of people i know.

    This has got to be one of the most hellacious looking routines i've seen

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    I've tried a few things so far. I tried speed squats and they just wore my hips out. I tried power cleans and front squats and I couldn't recover. Then I tried high bar squats 5/3/1 style with heavy abs and that felt awesome. I was fully recovered by the next week. So far though, the thing that has helped the most has been my nutrition. I follow John Berardi's Precision Nutrition. It tends to be pretty low in complex carbs. The first couple of weeks just really sucked so I started carb loading 24 hrs before the deadlift day. I used Shelby Starne's recommendation for carb rotation. It has been working really well.

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