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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    DB press is for amateurs

    Last week I was working out my chest, I was doing DB presses. I asked this big roid head for a spot, on the 105 DBs. After I was done with my set we were talking. He said that DB presses are for amateurs and that I should really started benching. Becuase in his own words "once you can press the 150's for 12 reps you can't go any where from there."

    So lately I have been thinking about this, do you think I am putting a limit on my progress by using the DB? If one day I have to start using the bench becuase I ran out of heavy DBs, don't you think I should just use the bench now?

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    Hell no. That guy doesn't know what he's talking about. It's a well known fact that DB press is more difficult than the same poundage on BB press because of the greater recruitment of various stabilizers and the perfectly equal distribution of weight to each arm. DB press is also safer when you're spotter-less and can drop each DB to the side. Just getting the DB's up above your chest is tough work in itself, prolonging your TUT by a few seconds. DBs can be lowered as far down as you like without the barrier of an expanded chest and the fear of getting the bar caught on that very chest. Until you max out the DB poundage in your gym, keep working at them! You can start to incorporate BB bench now if you like, but don't drop the dumbells.

    No pun intended.

    Personally, I like doing 2 sets of BB press and 2 sets of DB press. Keeps things interesting and hits everything.
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    Ok then I'll start benching once I can get 150's for 12. *flexs* shouldn't be long now

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    I personally prefer barbell presses, but that might just be because im like to powerlift.
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    Ok then I'll start benching once I can get 150's for 12. *flexs* shouldn't be long now
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    I'm going to give Jane the benefit of the doubt by not ripping what she said to pieces because she's got good intentions.

    However, both movements have a place in one's routine. If you have any interest in developing a "big bench" (shudder), I'd definitely throw in some barbell work.
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    Alright i have a question.. lets say you're stuck on barbell presses, would it be a good idea to switch to dumbbells for a while.. and how long would you use the dumbells before going back to barbell??

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    Well, I never really "stop" using the barbell; when I get stuck I just change up the rep range or something.

    I throw the db press in every few weeks or so just to keep it in the rotation.
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    yea right now i do both.. sets of barbell and a couple sets of inclined dumbbell.. hopefully i can start increasing again.. ive been stuck for a couple weeks now.. really sucks

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    I do both. Barbell and Dumbell press. Dumbell presses are much harder, honestly. Mostly because my left arm is much weaker than my right...sort of gives you a good balance.
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    i prefer DB press
    just feels good on chest

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    you get to the point where your gym runs out of dumb bells big enough...mien only goes up to 100 lbs. db's...

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    same at one of the gyms near my work. That is sad I think.

    when i run out of weight, i might move to superslow techniques for a while, then I dont know.

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    I'm gonna have to jump to bb's I guess...

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    My gym only has 250lb db's and that's not nearly enough for my incredible pressing power. Oh yeah, this is the internet, so I can also squat 700lb below parallel, and you should see my 800lb deadlift. I am ******* amazing.

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    It might take longer than you think to go from 105lbs. dumbbell press to a 150lbs. dumbbell press.

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    Re: DB press is for amateurs

    Originally posted by millertime
    Becuase in his own words "once you can press the 150's for 12 reps you can't go any where from there."
    Was this douchebag implying that HE could rep 12 with the 150s? If he was, ask him to prove it. I'd bet he can't.

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    Were I focusing on bodybuilding soley, I would do most of my pressing with dumbells.
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    Yeah - I'd like to see that.

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    db bench rocks but dont stop barbell benching either

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    Just suck it up and do them both, once a week.

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    using the formula for converting db weight to a bb equivalent: take total db weight (just multiply one of the db weights by 2) multiply by 1.5. So in this case: 150*2*1.5= 450 lbs. bb bench press. see if the jackass can do it.

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    Accipiter- have you been taking your stupid pills again??

    Where the fook did you get that jackass formula??
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    By that logic I should be benching 330.
    Vin Diesel has a fever.. and the only prescription is more cowbell.

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    Hate to burst anyone's bubble, but most people who weight train will never be able to get 150 lb dumbells for 12 reps, so it's not something I'd ever worry about. I know guys who bench over 400 lbs who can't get 150s for 12.
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