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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    If you don't meditate, you should :)

    Hey there weightlifting friends!

    I know its been a while since Ive been around, but I wanted to share some of my good fortune with you all. All I have to say is: If you have never meditated, you should.

    Meditation is a wonderful tool to connect with the universe and the divine. It aids every facet of our lives and is akin to every major religion and spirituality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMonkey View Post
    I love you all, and wish you all much benefit and light.
    I actually do meditate and I find it very useful. I've practised a few different disciplines over the years and although I'm nowhere near as consistent as I used to be, I think it's a worthwhile practice.

    However, I ****ing hate this attitude! The "love and light crowd" have no idea how childish they look. Love's great and all, but there's a difference between love and naivete.

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    Feel I should write a bit more.

    I once went on what I thought was a yoga weekend and it turned out to be 80% useless happy-clappy bull**** and 20% useful meditation/yoga. I'd come into contact with these sort of people at drop-in meditations but never to the same extent. I felt cheated and because I'm the sort of person who has to keep on asking questions, I generally made things difficult for them. By the second day I was doing it mostly for my own amusement but I noticed a few other people there were lifting their heads out of the mush too and not being so accepting. You had to stay vegetarian and avoid caffeine during the weekend. The first things I did when I got back were make an espresso, smoke a joint and have a bacon sandwich...

    This is going to get really pretentious, so I apologise.

    The reason "Love and light" makes me raise eyebrows is that on the spiritual ladder, it's actually pretty low down. If you look in depth at the world's religions or spiritual disciplines - especially those with an esoteric side - then you see the same kind of metaphors warning you against this attitude. For a little while I was researching alchemical imagery in renaissance literature, and alchemy has the best example.

    An early stage in the alchemist's journey is shown as The White Swan. The alchemist begins to experience the inner world as being light filled - the initial inner brightness which is often erroneously mistaken for true illumination. This is merely a first conscious encounter with the etheric world, and in comparison with physical sense experience is so overpowering as to be pictured as bright white light. The White Swan symbolises only gliding over the surface of an immense lake of darkness. Huh, never thought I'd talk about that on a weightlifting board.

    I mean, do what you like man, I'm completely irreligious, so I've no investment in this, but my experience is that people who have this attitude are usually young, well-off, were previously non-religious, have been meditating for less than a year and then think they've cracked it. People with a bit of malice and darkness in them actually come off as more mature and more enlightened.

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    There was a period of 3-4 years where I got really fascinated by Soto Zen (read whatever parts of Dogen's Shobogenzo I could grab, etc) and got really into it. There are still parts of that particular Buddhist flavor I've grabbed and live by. I usually sit Bompu Zazen for 20-30 minutes at a time.

    My life definitely gets different when I slip and stop practicing for a while.
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    A negative attitude reveals one's disposition on realization of what is possible through merging with the universe and the infinite love, bliss and wisdom possible.

    One's worldview is a mirror to their soul. If one is not awake to the true nature of the world, then that individual has no place to denounce the vehicles and attitudes of those on the path.

    "Lest ye become like small children, ye shall not enter the kingdom of heaven"
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    Jesus dude, you hit this meditation stuff hard huh?

    Fair enough, enjoy your trip.
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    Did someone hack your account? Cuz the ZenMonkey that used to post here was, like, the opposite of this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dgro View Post
    Did someone hack your account? Cuz the ZenMonkey that used to post here was, like, the opposite of this
    Haha...I was kind of thinking the same thing
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    I meditate but not for spiritual enlightenment or anything like that. Just to relax and release stress.
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    I've been looking into meditation also. My main reason is because I'd like to have a peaceful mind at all times. I spend way too much time stressing over useless thoughts, such as how others percieve me, stuff I need to do in the future, basic problems, things I've done wrong in the past, etc....

    "The power of now", written by Eckart Tolle is a book I've been meaning to pick up. Practicing his philosophies along with daily meditation, I think will be very good for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Songsangnim View Post
    I meditate but not for spiritual enlightenment or anything like that. Just to relax and release stress.
    Same here. I picked up the basics of meditation from counseling, anger management, etc. growing up and I use it to help me fall asleep now.
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    Ive got a few friends who also swear by meditation. Any other literature you would suggest instruction wise?
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    I can't meditate, no matter how hard I try. The only thing that quiets my mind is chaotic things (social situations, weightlifting, video games). I'm jealous of people that can.
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    Hey guys!

    Mercury:
    Meditation is not about trying or not trying. Allow Being to appropriate you and simply watch your thoughts rise and dissolve, like clouds in the sky. Do not go for the light, do not go for anything... watch it all happen... bear witness.... just BE. Do not attach yourself to anything... experience, thought, emotion etc... they are merely rising and falling phenomenon along with your existence. Watch the continual dying and birthing of yourself.

    Other books? These three, along with "Be Here Now" were what I began with and gave me a solid foundation.

    Basic Commentary:
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    Tibetan Buddhism/Tantric Buddhism:
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    More Ram Dass:
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    ... and if Tibetan Buddhism is up your alley:

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    http://www.amazon.com/Peaceful-Death...5257091&sr=8-1
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    This thread reminds me of a course I took in Eastern Philosophy back when I was in college.

    My professor was a real trip, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMonkey View Post
    Hey guys!

    Mercury:
    Meditation is not about trying or not trying. Allow Being to appropriate you and simply watch your thoughts rise and dissolve, like clouds in the sky. Do not go for the light, do not go for anything... watch it all happen... bear witness.... just BE. Do not attach yourself to anything... experience, thought, emotion etc... they are merely rising and falling phenomenon along with your existence. Watch the continual dying and birthing of yourself.
    Oh that explains it, glad you cleared that up...

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    Is this really ZenMonkey? I remember him not being like this in any shape or form when he used to post here consistently.

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    whats the point of being alive if you detach from everything and observe? sounds pretty dumb and pointless.

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    As Jesus said... "Be in the world and not of the world"

    or as Maurice Blanchot says "Detached from everything... even detachment"

    It is only about detachment until the sense of self is not dependent upon rising and falling phenomenon (which includes the sense of a subjective "I") . Once that occurs re-entrance into the material world is the resurrection necessary for true freedom. Then there is everywhere to stand, but nowhere to stand.
    Last edited by ZenMonkey; 09-25-2010 at 09:07 AM.
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