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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    JERSEY IRON Brian C's Avatar
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    Help picking new equipment for a gym

    Hey guys. I came across an unusual opportunity this week. The owner of the World gym I go to grabbed me on the way out this week and asked my advice on what new equipment to buy. The gym is set up like a typical commercial gym with Hammer Strength Equipment and a crappy rack along with the usual free weight equipment. The first 3 things that immediately pop in my head would be a quality squat rack, GHR, and a reverse hyper. Also a deadlift jack would be nice. Anything else you guys might suggest that could would be beneficial? Also, can anyone suggest good places to purchase the equipment? for the rack ill suggest either Elitefts or a Westside rack, but it might take some work to get him to purchase a reverse hyper since most people don't even know what it is or the benefits from it. The owner is one who really doesn't know much about strength training. He's in it moreso as an investment, so I need to convince him. Sorry for the long post. Thanks for any suggestions or advice.
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    I think you are on the right track. I assume you are referring to an actual power rack when you mention a "squat rack". If not, I would go with the Elitefts or Westside power rack since it can be used for squats, but also for many other things. The GHR might be easier to sell him on since it back be used for both GHR's as well as back raises. I don't know what the bars are like in your gym, but you might also consider a couple quality bars if you are using crappy bars. I do think you should recommend things that he will perceive as a worthy investment (i.e. they get plenty of use) that way if he decides to to get more stuff in the future he is more likely to come to you again and ask for advice. If you recommend some stuff that he gets and no one uses, he is less likely to get your opinion next time.

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    Great point Sean thanks. Bars are definately something to bring up.
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    Here's my opinion on the must have basics:
    1) good power rack (ie Elitefts rack or one of Lou Simmon's line from Legend)
    2) good bars---texas power bar, squat bar, etc
    3) good bench press bench (or a good dumbell bench to use in the rack---thats how we do it in my gym)
    4) GHR....

    A reverse hyper is nice, but its expensive and not alot of people will understand how to use it. He's not going to like spending over a grand on something that isn't used.


    I say start with those three basics and then go from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JK1 View Post
    Here's my opinion on the must have basics:
    1) good power rack (ie Elitefts rack or one of Lou Simmon's line from Legend)
    2) good bars---texas power bar, squat bar, etc
    3) good bench press bench (or a good dumbell bench to use in the rack---thats how we do it in my gym)
    4) GHR....

    A reverse hyper is nice, but its expensive and not alot of people will understand how to use it. He's not going to like spending over a grand on something that isn't used.


    I say start with those three basics and then go from there.
    That basically the exact list I want to bring to him, thanks a lot JK!
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    Deadlift platform is there is space for it

    Perhaps recommend at least two racks or one full power racks and one or two squat racks. I was at a member at a gym for a while that a full power rack next to a couple of squat racks and all the curl junkies at least used the squat racks for curling which left the power rack open.

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    Texas power bar.

    Saftey squat bar from westside or elitefts.

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    How many serious lifters go to your gym? I only ask, because you mention that it is set-up like a typical commercial gym. From my experience with a couple commercial gyms and then a college gym, unless you have a good amount of serious lifters, none of them will know the difference between bars. I would mention it to my friends, and they would just look at me like I was weird for the knowing the difference between bars. If it were me, I'd get another power rack or 2 (to make sure you have one when the curl jockeys take over one) and then I'd look at getting a GHR, like others had mention. You and the other serious lifters can do GHRs on it, but those less experienced, will be able to do back extensions or abs on it, making sure that it gets plenty of use. I'd get those 2 things before I'd get fancy bars, unless of course you have a ton of strong people there.

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    Thanks everyone for the advice. The 2 biggest things I'll recommend will be a new power rack and a GHR for sure. This alone will advance the gym in a huge way. Also, a deadlift jack and a Texas deadlift bar. Theres only a handful of us that are serious lifters, so equipoment such as a reverse hyper probably wont fly. But its definately a start. Ill also mention a SS bar and a Texas Squat bar to see if I can slide those in.
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    Sounds great, wish my Gym would get a Glute/Ham Raise they are so good!
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    Probably won't take long to see someone benching with the deadlift or squat bars. Or curling with them.

    You'll have to let us know as soon as you see it.
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    Sell the reverse hyper for the idea of back rehab. Everyone hurts their back. Maybe you can offer to teach his trainers how to use it? Trainers love to use equipment that people are too scared to use without a trainer. It helps them sell training.

    Also, if the owner is cool then maybe you can get an area to lockup equipment that your group buys. That's another good option, since it doesn't cost him money. You definitely want to lockup your stuff so others don't trash it though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian C View Post
    Thanks everyone for the advice. The 2 biggest things I'll recommend will be a new power rack and a GHR for sure. This alone will advance the gym in a huge way. Also, a deadlift jack and a Texas deadlift bar. Theres only a handful of us that are serious lifters, so equipoment such as a reverse hyper probably wont fly. But its definately a start. Ill also mention a SS bar and a Texas Squat bar to see if I can slide those in.
    I honestly wouldn't propose wasting money on a deadlift jack---or if you are going to get one, get one of the smaller, one sided ones like what WestCarry sells.

    I built mine from pipe at Home depot. It cost me ~$30 bucks and a few dozen cusswords. See if the gym owner will let you do that as you schmooze for better bars.
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    The next stop: PRO total.

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