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    The measure of upper body strength?

    What movement best determines the measure of upper body strength? Standing OH Press, or BB/DB Bench Press? Higher numbers of muscles are recruited for the Standing OH Press. Yet Bench Press recruits one of the largest muscles in the upper body while recruiting fewer stabilizers and synergists than OH Press. Is the measure of strength based on the size of the prime movers (because deltoids are small and pectorals are large)?

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    what? How do you figure standing OH presses use more muscles? I count 2...delts and triceps....

    Benching: chest, triceps, delts, (and some would claim lats...though I don't buy that)

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    Muscle recruitment in OH Press found here
    http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...taryPress.html

    Muscle recruitment in BB Bench Press found here
    http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...enchPress.html

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    Are there any exercises like shotput? Maybe medicine balls? Seems like that would both recruit a lot of muscles and use the pecs, shoulders and arms? Or would those just be sports?
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    just cause it uses more doesn't mean those are major muscle groups remember. I'd go with benching, it recruits more major muscle groups.

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    If the measure of strength based on the size of the prime mover then pull-ups would at least equal bench press.

    BB Row targets the whole of the back, yet is never thought of as a measure of upper body strength in the same way bench press is.

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    I would think a clean and jerk would better determine upper body strength for the most part.
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    Out of those two, prolly Bench.

    Overall I'd say either weighted dips of weighted chins.
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    Not to be an ass or anything, but that's kind of a bogus question IMO. You can't measure upper body strength using only one movement. If you could, the strong man contests would be pretty damn boring. There are just too many variables for that equation. Bis, tris, pecs, delts, traps, lats...etc.

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    I wish that pulls ups were the measure of strength...sh*t that is my favorite thing to do.

    I think that it really has nothing to do with this should be it or this should be that...the average man feels that if you bench alot and can curl alot then you are strong. (show muscles, thats why they don't lift on legs)

    The real BB knows better and doesn't just judge upper body strength off of benching or curls ....its more of a total package thing...atleast in my eyes.
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    Bench press is the upper body strenght tester, as you lower the weight you also use alot of muscles.
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    Originally posted by Shamik
    Not to be an ass or anything, but that's kind of a bogus question IMO. You can't measure upper body strength using only one movement. If you could, the strong man contests would be pretty damn boring. There are just too many variables for that equation. Bis, tris, pecs, delts, traps, lats...etc.
    You got that right.

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    Kickbacks or concentration curls.

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    only if they're with pink dumb-bells otter

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    Originally posted by Accipiter
    only if they're with pink dumb-bells otter
    Well of course, that's a given.

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    Not to be an ass or anything, but that's kind of a bogus question IMO. You can't measure upper body strength using only one movement. If you could, the strong man contests would be pretty damn boring. There are just too many variables for that equation. Bis, tris, pecs, delts, traps, lats...etc.

    Awesome post Shamik, totally agreed.

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    If I had to pick one i'd say benchpress
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    Originally posted by Shamik
    Not to be an ass or anything, but that's kind of a bogus question IMO. You can't measure upper body strength using only one movement. If you could, the strong man contests would be pretty damn boring. There are just too many variables for that equation. Bis, tris, pecs, delts, traps, lats...etc.

    Conversely, one could point out that powerlifting only includes one upper body only exercise, the bench press. Thus, it must be concluded that somebody considered the movement to be a pretty good guage of upper body power. Just food for thought.

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    i guess the movement that involves only upper body and pushes/pulls the most weight which i guess is chins or bench or dips

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    Although I'm sticking to my original post on this matter, on which several of you have commended me, I have to ask...is no one considering the back muscles as upper body. So far, I've seen mostly bench press as an answer. Someone said chins. No bent over rows. No lat pulldowns. I guess that's because the chest is what people see in the mirror. Hmmm...interesting.

    In any case. This is still a bogus post. Again, that's of course in my opinion.

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