Who here does squats and pulls on different days of the week? I started at the first of the year doing them in the same workout togeather and hit a PR on dead's at a meet back in April. And at another meet in august my lifts were down and I felt very overtrained coming into the meet.
Here lately I've been thinking of putting deadlifts back on a day by itself in order to give it more attention. Just wanting everyone's opinions.
Last edited by muscle_g; 10-03-2010 at 08:47 AM.
I pull and squat and different days, but I'll only pull for 2 weeks then take the 3rd week off to avoid feeling overtrained. I only started doing it b/c I was pressed for time, but I prefer deadlifting on back day now.
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Last edited by muscle_g; 10-03-2010 at 10:35 AM.
We train our deadlift on Mondays or do a movement that will raise the deadlift. We will also pull on our squat day (friday) a lot of times. A lot is by feel. If you pull twice a lot in a week you will have to vary the insensity. I feel this is the case even if you are pulling once a week. As stated, maybe 1 of 3 sessions could be lighter or just take off pulling and do accessories.
Devoting a whole day to the deadlift was the best thing that I have ever done for my deadlift. I do some sort of heavy pull (not neccesarly from the ground) every week.
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I've tried splitting them into different days in the past, but I usually ended up overdoing it. I think it could work well if managed properly. I found trying to do both heavy every week was too much for me. I think as long as you come up with a schedule that allows for light or moderate training days often enough to recover, you will be fine.
I do both on the same day now, but that's as much about schedule and time constraints as anything else.
My take on this is that if you pull after you squat meet day, why not do it in training as well.
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I have done it both ways. Currently i train them separate. If you recover pretty quick and work in proper rest/de-load times i think you away with training them separate with our over training. My best cycles were when i trained them separate. if you do want to train them together then i agree with fasteddy and do a heavy squat light dl and switch it the following week.
I alternate squat and deadlift days once a week. So on my deadlift days i will squat light before hand, just a few sets to warm up and get some blood flow...and on the days I squat i will do light pulls afterwards. This has worked very well for me and has allowed me to push each lift harder coming into a meet because you're only doing each lift once a week.
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We are on the same page Buddy. You can't really simulate a meet. Who has 12 hours to lift. ha! But really, I feel you get your deadlift as strong as you can, whichever way you can and with some conditioning work, it will carry over the same. I again feel the biggest key is pushing it but scheduled back off sessions are a must.
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I do squat accessory work after deadlift on one day and then do back accessory work after squat on another day. Usually it's a deadift variation and then some other back work after squat and a squat variation and other leg work after the heavy deadlift. I've found this actually works better for my recovery while still somewhat simulating meet conditions where you have to squat and pull on the same day. Granted I train mostly raw and don't lift as much as some fo the elite guys on here but I've been training for powerlifting for about 6+ years and have been making better gains than I ever have since starting this way (aside from when i was a newb, of course). BTW, I back squat and pull off the floor every week, but do give myself a de-load every 4 weeks.
training with my max weights, I can't imagine doing squat & deads on same day,
in the same week is sometimes too much
most times if i have a big pull or squat , or a PR i need about a week before my body is ready for another big lift.
in between big lift sessions i'll do assistance moves
Thanks for all of the opinions everyone. I have decided to do them on there on day for awhile and see how it goes.
This is what I am switching to
Mon- Squats, lower accessory
Wed- Bench, Shoulders, Triceps
Fri- Deadlifts, Back, Biceps/Grip
I am planning on deloading every 4th week to give my body adequte recovery time.
Last edited by muscle_g; 10-08-2010 at 09:19 AM.