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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    This is how you run a gym

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    Serious. I know its not all hardcore but those places almost never last or make big bucks. That gym seems to have the happy medium between somewhere that soccer mom and family's can train(that's what sells) and a good place for the serious lifter to train. And I guarantee the gym owner is making good money.

    More props to the guys that can run hardcore studios or gyms and profit six figures a year I truly admire and envy that. I tried running my business out of a hardcore training facility last year and failed. I'll be opening my own studio summer next year I would love to make it all hardcore but I would go broke.

    Kind of random but I know a lot of people on here have a big interest in the fitness industry.

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    Nice facility. I like the fact that its pretty versitile and can be marketed toward a family or the hardcore gym rat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borracho View Post
    Nice facility. I like the fact that its pretty versitile and can be marketed toward a family or the hardcore gym rat.
    Exactly! I would love to train there and I'm sure it doesn't scare everyone away who isn't the hardcore type.
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    you're an intelligent guy... but you're also half #$%&ing crazy... and that my friend is the formula for a great powerlifter.
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    Looks awesome but it could cost a LOT to run that kind of facility because it tailors to every kind of person. Something to aim towards, at least.
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    ^--Agreed. I would shudder to think of the costs and how many members they would need to make a profit.

    Any idea how big the city is that the gym is in?

    Edit: I was agreeing with Keith's post though DavyRen's is also accurate.
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    I'd almost move to train there hahaha
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    I think this is just awesome.

    It also could provide a bit of a segue for people to try some powerlifting and other sorts of activities in a less intimidating environment. Plus having some eye candy present on your way to the drinking fountain after getting done with some deadlifts is always a nice bonus.
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    This is more of a studio than a gym. This is my ultimate dream studio. I really envy guys that can open places like this and be highly successful, too bad its so scarce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasG View Post
    This is more of a studio than a gym. This is my ultimate dream studio. I really envy guys that can open places like this and be highly successful, too bad its so scarce.

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    Now THAT is an ideal place to train. That's the kind of gym I'd love to train at. I agree with you Thomas, I really admire someone that can be successful and attract that kind of clientele. I thought of running a similar gym multiple times but it's too risky as 95%+ fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    Now THAT is an ideal place to train. That's the kind of gym I'd love to train at. I agree with you Thomas, I really admire someone that can be successful and attract that kind of clientele. I thought of running a similar gym multiple times but it's too risky as 95%+ fail.
    Word. Sadly the hardcore gym in my neck of the woods is going out of business . They have a monolift reverse hyper, prowlers, sleds, etc... So sad to see those places go down while planet fitness flourishes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasG View Post
    Word. Sadly the hardcore gym in my neck of the woods is going out of business . They have a monolift reverse hyper, prowlers, sleds, etc... So sad to see those places go down while planet fitness flourishes.
    Damn. I don't understand why those kinds of gyms don't do well or why it doesn't attract more people. Simply put, if people want the best results, they have to train in the best atmosphere and use the best equipment, right? Why does 90% of the population continue to use recumbent bikes and smith machines?
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    I miss a leg room! The leg room at Bev Francis was sick. People throwing around massive amounts of weight and just getting after it. This place looks good. I miss gyms the size of a warehouse.
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    Great gyms, for sure something to shoot for. Good luck and hopefully you can accomplish your dream gym.
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    So what are everyone thoughts on opening a hardcore gym?

    There was a member from canada I believe that was talking starting a hardcore gym. I personally would love to do it but I never would. I'm not only in the industry for money but I'm also meant to make the big bucks and I've found in this industry meatheads do not like to spend money. The middle aged female who is starting to worry about her appearance and health is. I'm not talking petty cash either these women will spend 1000+ a month on it. I also have a big passion for athletics so finding the happy medium is something I am striving for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    Damn. I don't understand why those kinds of gyms don't do well or why it doesn't attract more people. Simply put, if people want the best results, they have to train in the best atmosphere and use the best equipment, right? Why does 90% of the population continue to use recumbent bikes and smith machines?
    Because it's not accessible to the average Joe/Jane.

    I don't want to generalize about all PLers, but outside these boards, most don't exactly give off an "approachable vibe." The vast majority of the bigger guys at my gym don't walk around like the own the place, but they don't exactly give off anything welcoming. I get it, it's the gym, it's not a social event. Unless I run into someone I know I make a conscious effort to focus on the music in my earphones and the weight I'm going to lift. But at 6' 150lbs, when I walk by a group of people with my head down and Amon Amarth pouring out of my ear buds, nobody really notices. If you are 6' and 250lbs, and the bar bends while you bench, it's not well-founded, but expect people to be a little intimidated.
    As some of you who work at gyms may attest, one of the biggest factors that hinders people from working out, is being self conscious and/or intimidated. Lifetime teaches it's classes in the dark for this reason.
    The overweight 50 year old lady is going to see you guys grunting in the rack and think "woah that's weightlifting and weightlifting is scary," and go run off to the elliptical s or to yoga class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasG View Post
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    Serious. I know its not all hardcore but those places almost never last or make big bucks. That gym seems to have the happy medium between somewhere that soccer mom and family's can train(that's what sells) and a good place for the serious lifter to train. And I guarantee the gym owner is making good money.

    More props to the guys that can run hardcore studios or gyms and profit six figures a year I truly admire and envy that. I tried running my business out of a hardcore training facility last year and failed. I'll be opening my own studio summer next year I would love to make it all hardcore but I would go broke.

    Kind of random but I know a lot of people on here have a big interest in the fitness industry.

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    Everybody just skip to 6:45.

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    The best gym in my area is a pretty small place that's also the oldest gym in the city. It was started by a Royal Marine in 1959 and has had numerous sporting champions come through it's doors over the years. They specialize in Olympic lifting and powerlifting but have a big cardio section as well.

    The thing that makes them unique is that they have separate days for women's and men's training. Men on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday morning. Women on Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, and Sunday afternoon. It seems like a very old-fashioned idea but I can sort of see it working... It could be the best of both worlds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.C. View Post

    The thing that makes them unique is that they have separate days for women's and men's training.
    Yoga pants add at least 25lbs to my dead lift and at least 5 pull ups, this would not work for me.
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    I would not say the Gym i go to is 'hardcore' as such but it is in the end of a warehouse and the next building is a builders yard so it comes close i guess, the owner makes a fair bit of money by running a Valet service in the yard he gets a good 10 cars a day in the summer that is about 200dollars for you chaps he charges about 13pounds for a full valet. That and membership+Supplement sales, clothing sales and one off payments etc keeps him going ok.

    I guess, like anything you will get what you put in and maybe for a year or two years you have to hold two jobs but the members will come.

    Just toady i was stopped in the petrol station and asked about the gym just because i was wearing the hoodie i purchased with the gyms logo and name on. Thats another 25quid a month to the owner.

    Things take time, if you can last the first year it will get easier i guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiff View Post
    I would not say the Gym i go to is 'hardcore' as such but it is in the end of a warehouse and the next building is a builders yard so it comes close i guess, the owner makes a fair bit of money by running a Valet service in the yard he gets a good 10 cars a day in the summer that is about 200dollars for you chaps he charges about 13pounds for a full valet. That and membership+Supplement sales, clothing sales and one off payments etc keeps him going ok.

    I guess, like anything you will get what you put in and maybe for a year or two years you have to hold two jobs but the members will come.

    Just toady i was stopped in the petrol station and asked about the gym just because i was wearing the hoodie i purchased with the gyms logo and name on. Thats another 25quid a month to the owner.

    Things take time, if you can last the first year it will get easier i guess.

    Good luck if you go for it! Nice thread too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasG View Post
    So what are everyone thoughts on opening a hardcore gym?

    I belong to one and they're doing just fine.

    They have three branches, one on West 49th St, one on West 42nd Street and the original one in Bayonne, NJ.

    It's a great place for pretty much a hole-in-the-wall. Website here: http://www.midcitygym.com/
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