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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Drew's Journal

    December 24th

    Cycle 1 Chest

    Body Weight 165 lbs

    Bench Press
    45x10
    135x5
    175x3
    205x8

    Dips
    bw x3
    35x3
    70x3
    80x3

    Incline Bench Press
    135x3
    155x2
    185x1
    205x2

    Close Grip Bench: 16"
    135x3
    165x3
    185x4

    Skull Crushers
    90x12
    90x12

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    December 25th

    Cycle 1 Back

    Deadlift
    225x2
    265x2
    285x2
    225x20 Straps

    Pull Ups
    bw x3
    25x3
    50x1

    DBOR
    50x15
    50x15
    50x15

    Ez Curls
    80x15
    80x15
    80x15

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    December 26th

    Cycle 1 Shoulders

    Seated Press
    45x8
    95x6
    135x8
    115x8

    SDBP
    50x5 Belt
    25x12
    15x12

    Shrugs: Overhand
    135x30
    135x30

    DB Snatch
    50x5
    65x3
    75x1

    First time.

    Lateral Raises
    10x25
    10x20
    10x20

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    December 28th

    Cycle 1 Legs

    Front Squat
    95x3
    135x2
    165x2
    185x1
    205x1 Belt
    215x0

    Low Bar Squat: 12" Box
    135x3
    185x3
    225x3 Belt
    245x4

    Calves
    135x15
    155x15

    OLC
    bw x15
    bw x15
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    December 30th

    Cycle 2 Chest

    Body Weight 167.8 lbs

    Bench Press
    135x5
    185x3
    205x1
    225x4
    235x1

    Dips
    bw x3
    35x3
    60x2
    85x3

    Incline Bench Press
    135x3
    165x3
    195x1
    210x2

    Close Grip Bench: 16"
    135x3
    185x6

    DB Bench
    50x20
    50x20

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    December 31th

    Cycle 2 Back

    Deadlift
    265x2 Straps
    295x2
    305x2
    315x2

    Pull Ups
    bw x3
    25x5
    25x5
    25x5

    DBOR
    75x12
    75x12
    75x12

    Ez Curls
    85x15
    85x13
    85x10
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    Are your weights in LBS or are they in KG mate?

    What program are you following?

    How long have you been lifting.

    Nice bench and deadlift work mate..... How come you go for straps instead of Chalk, sorry about all the questions just trying to learn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiff View Post
    Are your weights in LBS or are they in KG mate?

    What program are you following?

    How long have you been lifting.

    Nice bench and deadlift work mate..... How come you go for straps instead of Chalk, sorry about all the questions just trying to learn
    LBS, lol I wish they where in KG

    As of right know I'm doing my own split. With rest days only as needed. I'm beginning to draw my own conclusion on the style of training I find effective for me.

    Chest
    Back
    Shoulders
    Legs

    I have been lifting for a few years, I'm 18 right now. However I have never gone a full 6 months with out a huge set back or injury. In my first cycle all the weights for the big three were my new maxes.

    I have been using straps only because I felt my right pec straining when pulling and I don't want to get injured over something that can be avoid. I suspect it has something to do with pulling a day after chest. However when I warm up I use a double overhand grip with plenty of chalk. I would rather not use them but for now its better than nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew92 View Post
    LBS, lol I wish they where in KG

    As of right know I'm doing my own split. With rest days only as needed. I'm beginning to draw my own conclusion on the style of training I find effective for me.

    Chest
    Back
    Shoulders
    Legs

    I have been lifting for a few years, I'm 18 right now. However I have never gone a full 6 months with out a huge set back or injury. In my first cycle all the weights for the big three were my new maxes.

    I have been using straps only because I felt my right pec straining when pulling and I don't want to get injured over something that can be avoid. I suspect it has something to do with pulling a day after chest. However when I warm up I use a double overhand grip with plenty of chalk. I would rather not use them but for now its better than nothing.

    Ever thought of using a hook grip?

    How have your injuries come about is it in the gym or out of it in a sport? One key injury factor can be overtraining, i know there is a lot of debate on weither or not people overtrain but if your experiencing discomfort beyond DOMS then i would say you might need to cut back a bit?

    With that split i am sure doing each one once a week should be enough? would you do more if you felt up to it?

    Just interested mate not trying to criticise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiff View Post
    Ever thought of using a hook grip?

    How have your injuries come about is it in the gym or out of it in a sport? One key injury factor can be overtraining, i know there is a lot of debate on weither or not people overtrain but if your experiencing discomfort beyond DOMS then i would say you might need to cut back a bit?

    With that split i am sure doing each one once a week should be enough? would you do more if you felt up to it?

    Just interested mate not trying to criticise.
    Yes I have tried a hook grip. The only problem I have with gripping the bar are my small hands lol

    Well I've injured my lower back twice, to the point where I had to take a few months off both times. This is over the course of about 2 years. The first time I was just messing around in my basement gym and decided I should deadlift using the Ez curl bar without any warm up. Needless to say I should have stopped on the 3rd but continued onto a 5th rep. Then the other time was poor form on the seated press as well as rounding my lower back on box squats.

    As it stands right now its working out to be once every six days. I am starting to not be a fan of a weekly routines with scheduled days. Why rest when you don't have to, why train when you don't want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew92 View Post
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    As it stands right now its working out to be once every six days. I am starting to not be a fan of a weekly routines with scheduled days. Why rest when you don't have to, why train when you don't want to.
    Well you have to do whatever works for you of course but sometimes you will be better in the gym after a day or so off no matter what you feel like.

    It is your call mate you got to do whatever feel right for you, if it works then great but if your getting regular injuries at such a young age then that would worry me.
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    January 1st

    Cycle 2 Shoulders

    Seated Press
    95x5
    135x2
    145x2
    155x3

    SDBP
    50x10
    50x10
    50x12

    Shrugs
    155x30

    DB Snatch
    50x3
    65x1
    75x1
    85x1

    Lateral Raise
    15x20
    15x20
    15x20

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    Cycle 2 Legs

    Box Jumps: 36"
    bw x3
    bw x3
    bw x3

    Low Bar Squat: 12"
    45x3
    135x3
    205x2
    235x1 Belt
    255x5

    High Bar Paused Box Squat: 12"
    135x3
    175x3 Belt
    195x3

    DBSC
    50x30
    50x30

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    January 3rd

    Cycle 3 Chest

    Body Weight 170 lbs

    Bench Press
    45x10
    135x3
    185x3
    210x8

    Dips
    bw x3
    bw+45x3
    bw+90x3

    Incline Bench Press
    135x3
    185x3
    215x1

    Close Grip Bench: 16"
    135x3
    175x2
    205x1

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    FInally some younger guys are around here haha.

    Strong deadlift and bench pressing Drew. Is that seated press barbell? Because it's fuking crazy strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chevelle2291 View Post
    FInally some younger guys are around here haha.

    Strong deadlift and bench pressing Drew. Is that seated press barbell? Because it's fuking crazy strong.
    Yeah its a barbell, I've got to be honest though. Its not completely vertical. I was planning on taking some pictures anyway I'll try and get one up of my seated press position.

    Yeah on my first cycle I deadlifted 285x2 and failed to get 305 of the ground after words. So in 11 days I put 50lbs on it. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew92 View Post
    Yeah its a barbell, I've got to be honest though. Its not completely vertical. I was planning on taking some pictures anyway I'll try and get one up of my seated press position.

    Yeah on my first cycle I deadlifted 285x2 and failed to get 305 of the ground after words. So in 11 days I put 50lbs on it. lol
    Still strong pressing though. I can understand why you don't have it completely vertical. I've debated moving it to a very high incline before simply because I find the straight back position very uncomfortable.

    Fuk pictures. Vids are where it's at man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chevelle2291 View Post
    Still strong pressing though. I can understand why you don't have it completely vertical. I've debated moving it to a very high incline before simply because I find the straight back position very uncomfortable.

    Fuk pictures. Vids are where it's at man.
    Its actually at the highest setting on my bench. Any higher I wouldn't be able to get it out of the rack. Anyway IMO I don't think I would ever do any 90 degree pressing any way. If you think about when you Military Press your back is at angle closer to that of a super high incline anyway.

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    January 5th

    Cycle 3 Back

    Box Jumps: 36"
    bw x3
    bw x3
    bw x3

    Deadlifts
    275x2 Straps
    305x2
    325x2
    335x2

    Pull Ups
    bw x3
    35x5
    35x5
    35x5

    DBOR
    75x12
    75x12

    Ez Curls
    70x20
    70x20

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    January 6th

    Cycle 3 Shoulders

    Military Press
    45x5
    95x3
    115x3 Belt
    135x4

    Incline Bench Press
    135x3
    175x3
    185x8
    205x4

    Shrugs
    135x15
    185x15 Overhand
    185x15 Straps

    Lateral Raise
    10x25
    10x25
    10x25

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    January 8th

    Cycle 3 Legs

    Box Jumps: 36"
    bw x3
    bw x3
    bw x3

    Low Bar Squat: 12"
    135x3
    205x2
    245x1 Belt
    275x3

    High Bar Paused Squat: 12"
    135x2
    185x2 Belt
    205x2
    215x2
    225x2

    OLC
    bw x30
    bw x30
    bw x30

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    Your back still bothering you at all? Ever thought about doing some foam rolling for it? I injured my back last march and foam rolling damn near cured it.

    Why the box jumps before squatting? I bet you'd be good for a 290-300 low bar squat without the box jumps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chevelle2291 View Post
    Your back still bothering you at all? Ever thought about doing some foam rolling for it? I injured my back last march and foam rolling damn near cured it.

    Why the box jumps before squatting? I bet you'd be good for a 290-300 low bar squat without the box jumps.
    Nope. I attribute those injuries to lack of knowledge and tight hamstrings. Since then I have begun to current those issues. I'll have to look into them.

    I have never been a fan of warm ups in the cardio form, so I tried them out one day and was shocked at the results in had on my squatting. You might try it sometime. However I want to add that the 36" box is rather easy for me and is more of a warm up. Not saying I'm a beast jumper or anything but my whole idea behind doing them first is generate explosive power that I could carry into the squat and deadlift session following,

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    Glad to see you back posting, didn't know who you were until I took a closer look, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew92 View Post
    Nope. I attribute those injuries to lack of knowledge and tight hamstrings. Since then I have begun to current those issues. I'll have to look into them.

    I have never been a fan of warm ups in the cardio form, so I tried them out one day and was shocked at the results in had on my squatting. You might try it sometime. However I want to add that the 36" box is rather easy for me and is more of a warm up. Not saying I'm a beast jumper or anything but my whole idea behind doing them first is generate explosive power that I could carry into the squat and deadlift session following,
    Tight hammys'll get ya.

    Cardio warm-ups are pretty worthless in my opinion. Dynamic stretching and foam rolling are where it's at.

    I guess I could see where some low box jumps would help loosen ya up a bit. Same idea behind plyo pushups for bench press I'd imagine.

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