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    "The BECOMING"

    Hey everyone, I have decided to start a journal, the first stats are from about the 6th or 7th month of training (when I finally learned the importance of having a lifting log). I will not include all of my entries, just the ones that show beginning, progress, etc. Here we go.

    OCT. 16, 2001—Back & Bis

    Body Weight: 159lbs

    Pulldowns: 100x8(2sets), 110x8
    Seated Rows: 100x8(3)
    Reverse Grip Pulldowns: 90x8(2), 80x8
    Decline Curls: 20x6(6), 25x6

    OCT. 17, 2001—Legs

    Body Weight: 159lbs

    Leg Press: 90x8(2sets), 110x6
    Leg Ext.: 70x8(2), 90x8
    SLD: 90x8, 100x8(2)
    Front Squat: 115x8x6x4
    Sled Calves:180x12(3)

    OCT. 18, 2001—Chest, Arms, Shoulders

    Body Weight: 159lbs

    Decline BB: 105x8, 155x5, 155x3, 135x7, 135x5
    Incline DB: 40x8, 45x6, 45x5, 40x5
    DB Lat Raises: 20x8(2), 25x8
    Military Press: 85x6(2), 105x4, 95x4
    Overhead DB Press: 25x6(3)
    EZ Preachers: 40x8(2), 35x6
    Tri. Pushdowns: 100x8, 110x8, 120x8

    Measurements as of 11-18-03

    Chest:42"
    Shoulders:48.5"
    Bicep:15.5(R), 15(L)
    Forearm:13(R), 12.5(L)
    Stomach:32.875
    Thighs:21.5
    Calves:15

    12-4-04 Chest & Shoulders

    Incl. Bench: 135x12(3)
    Incl. DB: 35x12(3)
    Incl. DB Flyes: 35x12(2)
    CG Incl. DB: 35X15(3)
    Shoulder Blitz: (Front, Side, Rear DB Raises) 10x12(9)

    12-6-04 Arms

    Body Weight: 174lbs
    DB Curls: 30x10, 35x10(2)
    DB Hammers: 40x12(3)
    EZ Bar Curl: 85x6(2)
    Rope Curl: 70x10, 80x10, 100x10
    DB Skullcrushers: 35x12(3)
    Kickbacks: 30x10(3)
    Rope Extensions: 140x10(3)

    12-23-04 Chest & Back

    Bench: 135x10, 185x8, 235x5, 275x3, 235x2, 205x6
    Incl. Bench: 185x6, 135x8, 155x8, 185x8
    Pull-Ups: 10-Behind, 12-Front
    Pulldowns: 120x8(2)(Behind), 120x7(2)(Front), 120x8(2)(Rev. Grip)
    Seated Rows: 120x12(2)
    Incl. Flyes: 45x12(2)
    Dec. Flyes: 45x12(2)

    Measurements as of 12-25-04

    Chest:41"
    Shoulders:50"
    Bicep:15.875(R), 15.5(L)
    Forearm:13(R), 12.5(L)
    Stomach:33.875
    Thighs:21.5
    Calves:15

    Anyways that is a little of my past.

    1-29-05 Legs

    Body Wieght: 178lbs
    Squats: 205x10, 235x8, 255x6, 275x4, 300x2
    Leg Ext. 110x12(2)
    Lying Leg Curls:70x12(2)
    SLD: 45x15(3)

    2-17-05 Shoulders

    Body Weight: 176.5
    Arnold Press: 45x10(3)
    Shoulder Blitz: 15x10(9)
    Military Press: 95x10(3)
    Shrugs; 185x10(3)

    OK,OK Now we will look at this week

    11-7-05 Legs, Chest, Forearms

    Body Weight: 172.5
    Leg Press: 225x10, 135x20,15
    Calves Raises: 135x15,10,10
    Bench: 135x12(3)
    Incl. Bench: 115x10,8
    Hammer Curls: 30x10(3)
    Rear Delts: 115x15(2)

    The poundage is low on Bench because I am trying to concentrate on Max contraction.

    11-8-05 Legs, Shoulders, Tris

    BW: 171lbs
    Leg Press: 135x20(2)
    Calves: 135x15,10
    Arnold Press: 30x10
    DB Rear Delts: 15x10(2)
    BB Skullcrushers: 40x10(2)
    Rev. Curls: 40x15(2)
    Lying Leg Curls: 50x15, 55x15,10,20
    Rear Delts: 115x15(2)

    11-9-05 Arms

    BW: 173lbs
    Cable Pushdowns SS with Rev. BB curls
    40x15 50x15,12,10,8,dropset
    47.5x12,10,8,dropset
    Seated DB Curls: 30x15,10, 25x8,dropset
    CG Bench: 110x15, 120x10, 135x8, 110x8
    DB Hammers: 25x15, 30x10, 35x8, 30x8
    Hammer Machine Tri's: 80x15, 110x10, 95x8, 50x20
    Hammer Machine curls: 80x15, 110x10, 95x8
    Concentrated DB Curls: 30x8 (dropset)
    Crunches: 60

    You probably notice that the weight is pretty light, but I don't have a partner and I am working on strict form and isolation.

    Check out my pics "Need Help" and any other comments or suggestions are greatly appreciated. My diet is healthy for the most part, I eat about 5 meals a day that consist of high carbs, and good fat content. Lots of oats, PB, rice, chicken, veggies, etc. i don't drink soda, coffee, alcohol. Mainly water and Tea (unsweet).

    I just finished my running and biking season, so I hope to see some mass gains. Like I said before, the weight that I am lifting right now is relatively light for me, I just want to concentrate on isolation right now.
    "One's success is determined only by his/her effort and willingness to get back up when they fall." 97muscle

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    11-10-05

    LEGS

    BW: 174.5lbs
    Leg Press: 135x20, 220x10, 270x10, 320x10
    Calf Raises: 320x10(2) strict form, 270x10
    SLDL: 50x12, 60x12(2) Being conservative on the lower back
    Seated Leg Curls: 65x10, 85x10, 110x10
    Hip Abduction: (Outer) 65x15, 130x15, 165x15, Same for Inner
    Lying Leg Curls: 65x10, 85x10, 95x6, Dropset
    Leg Raises: 50

    I notice that when I post that it takes forever for anyone to reply, is that normal for Newbies or is there a problem with me.
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    hehe, people will come around your journal don't worry
    You will soon see Getfit in OngII Flying Knee Thingys of Doom see if the feisty greek can survive the kicks of Steel Leg From Shaolin Soccer,Dim Mak(def touch) from ChungLee,and Flying Crane by Daniel-san-El Pietro

    Spray it with windex greek!-the famous El Pietro

    You be quiet or i'll clean and press your narrow francophone self-Callahan

    Lift for gains,not glory.Control your ego and the weight

    What a strong girl! This leads me to believe you can severly injure most of the male population-Nick Hatfield

    You're blazing white hot,anyone ever tell you that? Sometimes i think you have fingers faster then Superman when it comes to posts on WBB forums.
    Hot in terms of both speed and... well new hotness- Stash

    gain 50lbs-Anthony

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    Seems like a lot of direct arm work, but then your arms are 15"+ so what the hell do I know.

    No deadlifts?

    And as for SLDLs, if your form is muy excelente, then your poundages will increase quickly.
    me: so this is the "pump" you speak of
    me: I could never figure out what people were talking about
    Relentless: like an all over body hardon, yeah


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    Haha

    Quote Originally Posted by getfit
    hehe, people will come around your journal don't worry
    I have read a lot of your past threads and you seem to have such a great attitude and I think that is so cool. You always seem to give great advice and criticism when needed, people like you are the source of motivation for all of us that haven't quite reached our goals yet. I have met a lot of guys and gals that are phenominal and I try to talk to them and get advice and they are total jerks, it's like they have forgotten the days when they were newbies. Anyways thank you so much, and I hope you have a wonderful day
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    Thanks

    but then your arms are 15"+ so what the hell do I know.

    Is 15" small?

    And the Dead's will come, I just have to be careful with my back right now.
    Thanks for the reply
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    I WISH MY ARMS WERE 15
    You will soon see Getfit in OngII Flying Knee Thingys of Doom see if the feisty greek can survive the kicks of Steel Leg From Shaolin Soccer,Dim Mak(def touch) from ChungLee,and Flying Crane by Daniel-san-El Pietro

    Spray it with windex greek!-the famous El Pietro

    You be quiet or i'll clean and press your narrow francophone self-Callahan

    Lift for gains,not glory.Control your ego and the weight

    What a strong girl! This leads me to believe you can severly injure most of the male population-Nick Hatfield

    You're blazing white hot,anyone ever tell you that? Sometimes i think you have fingers faster then Superman when it comes to posts on WBB forums.
    Hot in terms of both speed and... well new hotness- Stash

    gain 50lbs-Anthony

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    Yeah

    Quote Originally Posted by getfit
    I WISH MY ARMS WERE 15
    See I have only been comparing myself to the 18"-21" arms in Flex, and other mags, so I always thought my arms to be pretty small. when I first started working out I did like most newb's and only worked the muscles that I wanted to, so my arms had been my main focus. I have incorporated legs for some time now and I love the feeling of accomplishment after finishing a heavy set of leg press, or ham curls. Unfortunately I have had to slow down on the squats because of my back and knees. But not to fear, I will be pressing 375 again soon.

    Oh this is so great to finally be corresponding back and forth with fellow members.
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    My arms are 12.5" or something like that. I really don't know to be honest...and since I'm a skinny-fatty, probably even smaller.
    me: so this is the "pump" you speak of
    me: I could never figure out what people were talking about
    Relentless: like an all over body hardon, yeah


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    Haha

    Hey man I remeber when my friends 90lbs sister out lifted me, so I have had to work hard for what I have achieved so far. I have really grown to love lifting, it used to be something that I just did, now it is my life and everything besides my wife and church come last. If I couldn't lift I don't know what I would do. When I hurt my back and the doc told me that I would never lift again I lost it, total depression, etc. Then I went to my trusty chiro. and he popped me around for a couple months and said "get back in the gym, it the only reason that you were not hurt worse." So here I am back at it after about 6 months off, and I am starting to feel so much better.
    "One's success is determined only by his/her effort and willingness to get back up when they fall." 97muscle

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    There is no problem with your journal.. or getting posts. It's just a matter of quantity and sex... unfortunately, there is a lot of journals out there.. too much to almost go though.. and that your sex is male. Built and GetFit get so much attention because they are NOT Male.. and because they play with us guys, while providing top-notch info...

    Your progress is going great.. keep up the work.. and you are correct, without a partner, your form should be even stricter then ever. Save the "cheats" for an emergency situation.. LOL.

    Size is relative - not to others of the same size, but according to your own genetics and your workouts. You may think that you are pushing your chest as hard as your legs... but it's takes a lot of experience and "sense of being" to really understand what works for your body. Experiment and learn - always.

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    Having some food pr0n works wonders too.

    Don't tell anyone I said that.

    I'm kidding btw. Be consistent (as bear said) and it'll come with time.
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    Word

    I have noticed that, well I can't blame anyone those ladies are hot. And I have really been trying to stop reading all these supposed training secrets, and focusing more on what works for me. I can't wait to see where I will be in another year or so. I plan to post some more pics in a few months to see how much I have come along. Thanks for the reply
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    Hahaha

    Quote Originally Posted by SobaAddict70
    Having some food pr0n works wonders too.

    Don't tell anyone I said that.
    Hey have you seen that chick Joanna Thomas, go to her site for some Muscle women prOn. HAHAHA
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    Oct. 11 2005

    Back

    BW:174.5
    One Arm Seated Lat Row: 45x15, 70x12, 90x12, 115x10
    BO BB Row: 50x12, 60x12,15
    Rear Delts (Machine): 100x15(3)
    High Lat Row: 45x15, 70x12, 80x10
    Low Lat Row: 70x12(3)
    Seated V-Bar Row: 50x12, 60x12, 40x15 dropset
    Pulldowns: 42.5x10(2)

    Crunches: 60 (+30lbs)

    I am not to sure how accurate the weight is on the machine pulldowns, because on my father in laws Weider C670, which utilizes actual plates I pull alot more than that, the same with the seated v-bars

    Anyways that was today.

    My diet is pretty much the same everyday

    Bowl of cereal
    Bowl of Oats
    OJ
    500mg Vitamin C
    2 Kre-Alkalyn pills

    Protein Bars throughout the day

    2 Ham, beef, or other meat sandwiches
    can of tuna
    side salad
    celery and PB

    Good round dinner meal (wife is good cook)

    evening snacks
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    11-13-05 Chest, Traps, RDL's

    BW: 173lbs
    DB Incline Press: 65x8(2)
    Chins: 10, 7
    Machine Flyes: 130x12, 145x9, 160x8
    Rear Shrugs: 135x10(2)
    Front Shrugs: 135x12(2)
    Upright Rows (cable): 42.5x12(2)
    DB RDL's: 15x20(2)
    Shoulder Blitz: 15x10(2)
    Abs: 60 +40lbs

    Great workout this morning, really burned. The abs are getting more defined even with the added intake. I am in the gym by 5am and my dog always has a way of waking me up around 1am every morning. IT SUCKS. But oh well, what can you do.
    It was hard for me at first to get up so early and go to the gym, but after about 2.5 weeks now I have found that it makes me feel so much better throughout my day.

    Later
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    Hunger

    Man I am freakin hungry today, it seems like I have been eating non stop today and I am still hungry. I am going to go broke if I keep this up, oh well, I guess you have to pay to gain right. I have been on this 5 am schedule and it is actually working out great for my schedule, I am able to go home and play with my dog a bit before it gets too dark (6:00pm looks like midnight right now).
    I think I am going to start incorporating a different type of exercise for each muscle group every session and see how I respond to it. I have heard some great things about this kind of work out, and I tend to get into a rut or comfort zone and that is when I stop seeing improvement. We shall see

    Later
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    nothing wrong with feeling hungry, eat up, helps you grow
    You will soon see Getfit in OngII Flying Knee Thingys of Doom see if the feisty greek can survive the kicks of Steel Leg From Shaolin Soccer,Dim Mak(def touch) from ChungLee,and Flying Crane by Daniel-san-El Pietro

    Spray it with windex greek!-the famous El Pietro

    You be quiet or i'll clean and press your narrow francophone self-Callahan

    Lift for gains,not glory.Control your ego and the weight

    What a strong girl! This leads me to believe you can severly injure most of the male population-Nick Hatfield

    You're blazing white hot,anyone ever tell you that? Sometimes i think you have fingers faster then Superman when it comes to posts on WBB forums.
    Hot in terms of both speed and... well new hotness- Stash

    gain 50lbs-Anthony

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    Haha

    Yeah I have really started to enjoy this whole eating thing, I used to worry about the tummy but I know I will work it off as soon as it shows up.

    Thanx for the response
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    Welcome to the board and good work. Good to see a fellow Okie on here. I'm not in OK anymore (haven't been since '00), but it will always be home to me.
    I know you're half-crazy, but I wish you'd go all the way.

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    THanks

    Quote Originally Posted by razorcut
    Welcome to the board and good work. Good to see a fellow Okie on here. I'm not in OK anymore (haven't been since '00), but it will always be home to me.
    COOL, yeah OK is a cool place to call home. I will be posting some new pics in a few months or so and we will see how far I have come.

    Thanks again
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    11-14-05 Legs

    BW: 174
    Leg Press: 200x10, 290x10, 360x10
    Calf Raises: 220x10(3), 220x15(dropset)
    SLDL: 80x10(3) slowly increasing weight to see how lower back will react
    Seated Leg Curls: 75x15, 95x15, 110x15
    Hip Abductions: 130x15, 160x15, 190x15 (inner & outer)
    Lying Leg Curls: 65x15, 80x15, 95x15, 50x6(dropset)
    Abs: 60 +40lbs


    My legs were freakin on fire, I was in the middle of my leg curls and just as I was hoisting a rep up the lights went out.( I had a total POWDER moment). do you guys remember the movie Powder where the guy could control things with his mind, etc. Anyways it was a weird moment, and then I hobbled to the Stang and poorly shifted my way home.
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    Nice work man. your lifts are looking good.
    If you are going through the middle of HELL keep going your half way out.

    Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm-----Winston Churchill

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    Thanks

    I have really been concentrating on getting my form down and I have noticed that with strict form comes good gains. I am not saying that this is true for everyone, so before I get flamed let me clarify that, but I feel that it has worked the best for me. I haven't had the nagging knee or back pains since I stopped worrying about how much I am lifting and refocused on HOW I am lifting. Also in my arm work, just by dropping a little weight I have been able to get the best pumps I have ever felt.

    Thanks for the reply, NOW GET BACK TO LIFTING
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    Great start to a journal

    Here is some maybe this will help lure others in. That and posting in other peoples journal helps too..
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