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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    meet results for my meet, and a new all time world record

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    after a nasty cut down from a peak or 201lbs and down to 181 and back up to 200 i was actually feeling damn good for the first time after a big cut in a long time i'll spare the bs and get to the lifts

    squats
    opener 825 good
    2nd 875 good smoked it fast
    3rd 935 good all time world record. i absolutely flipped out after this lift. i finally found myself having a lot of fun at a meet again. soaked it up as much as i could!

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    opener 225 raw good - longest pause in pl history
    2nd 450 good smooth but my shoulders felt dead
    3rd 500 not so much

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    opener 615 good 2000 total
    2nd 665 good 2050 total
    3rd 700 nope, just dead then.

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    today i achieved the #1 goal i set for myself back when i was in high school for my powerlifting career and it feels damn good! now back to the 98's and actually fill out!
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    Congrats. Especially after a big weight cut.
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    Congrats Derek! 20 lb cut is impressive alone let alone hitting that squat.
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    Derek Wilcox
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    Congrats Derek, that's a huge squat and total @ 181!!!!
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    Congrats! It's still hard to believe that skinny kid that showed up to the gym one day is now a WR holder.

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    Awesome total and squat, can't wait to see what you total when if you don't cut so much and "fill out".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean S View Post
    Congrats! It's still hard to believe that skinny kid that showed up to the gym one day is now a WR holder.
    thanks man, it was from the help of guys like you who took the time to fix the dumb shit i did back then.
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    im sorry but;
    - those squats looked high
    - how can you claim a world record when powerlfiting doesnt have any unity amoug federations?

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    congrats Derrik, u have come a long way!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropy1 View Post
    im sorry but;
    - those squats looked high
    - how can you claim a world record when powerlfiting doesnt have any unity amoug federations?
    The fact that you pissed off a raw or single-ply nazi just makes you r World Record better.

    Congrats man.

    oh, and I already forwarded the videos posted of the 935 to the 181'er on my team to get his butt in gear....
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    Congrats man! What did you do to make the weight cut?

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    The perspective of this video is causing alot of hate, but you can see the crease of the hip go to the top of the knee so I would call it good. Your form is impressive man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theBarzeen View Post
    The fact that you pissed off a raw or single-ply nazi just makes you r World Record better.

    Congrats man.

    oh, and I already forwarded the videos posted of the 935 to the 181'er on my team to get his butt in gear....
    im not even a powerlifter, i just use some techniques of powerlifting and follow it a litte. Im just amussed at all the "world records" suddenly falling and the squats just getting higher and higher

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    Quote Originally Posted by entropy1 View Post
    im not even a powerlifter, i just use some techniques of powerlifting and follow it a litte. Im just amussed at all the "world records" suddenly falling and the squats just getting higher and higher
    that's even better!

    You don't even compete and you suddenly have a stake in someone putting up big weight.....

    the way I figure it: The briefs do at least 300# of the work for him, the suit another 300#. The knee wraps add 85 lbs and the belt another 100#..... that means he only squatted 150 lbs by himself!

    Bro, you are way stronger than that. Why don't you get in to gear and smash his record?
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    Congrats Derek. Always knew you'd get a WR squat.
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    I gotta hate on the squat... 935 lbs at 181, c'mon, you didn't leave any room for the rest of us to ever touch that squat! Awesome lifting! Congrats on the World Record - well deserved!

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    Quote Originally Posted by theBarzeen View Post
    that's even better!

    You don't even compete and you suddenly have a stake in someone putting up big weight.....

    the way I figure it: The briefs do at least 300# of the work for him, the suit another 300#. The knee wraps add 85 lbs and the belt another 100#..... that means he only squatted 150 lbs by himself!

    Bro, you are way stronger than that. Why don't you get in to gear and smash his record?
    i can read a rule book, and can see what parrallel is

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    Quote Originally Posted by entropy1 View Post
    i can read a rule book, and can see what parrallel is
    You might be able to read what the definition of parallel means, but apparently you cannot spell it. Nor are you a competitor, so your experience with determining parallel is questionable. Believe it or not, a judging official does not show up on meet day, sit in a chair, and start judging depth. The judges aren't internet warriors... they have a minimum of experience and training behind their officiating.

    Furthermore, it is impossible to judge depth from an internet video taken from the front. Even the head judge, who is sitting in the best possible location to determine depth from the front, generally gives a lifter the benefit of the doubt on depth. That is because judging depth from the front sucks. That is why you have side judges.

    In conclusion, no, you do not know how to call depth on a squat. Frankly, you are unqualified to be a judge. In addition, the very fact that you believe you can call depth from a front biased video shows how inexperienced you are.

    And why do you even care? You've said yourself you are not a powerlifting and do not compete. Yet you feel compelled to come here and denigrate a man's great achievement? Does it make you feel like an expert to espouse your unqualified opinion? Is there some deep seated insecurity that makes you comment on matters of which you know little?

    If you don't have constructive criticism or positive reinforcements, don't say anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by entropy1 View Post
    i can read a rule book, and can see what parrallel is
    I'm going to put my 2 cents in here...

    When I first saw the video I also thought it was high. Like a good 2+ inches. Derek has even SAID it looked high on another forum. I've known Derek for more then a few years now, and every squat I've seen of his looked like it was to legal depth, until this one.

    HOWEVER, I wasn't at the meet in the side judges chair. His training partners called his depth, and I'm pretty sure its the same group of guys that he's been training with for some time who have called his depth at plenty of other meets. If the judges say it was a good lift then it was a good lift in my book.

    To top it off, I'm pretty sure if Derek thought it was NOT a good lift, he's man enough to tell the judges to turn it down. He's worked real hard to get where he is, and to my knowledge he has never been given a gift. He trusted his handlers to call his depth, and if the judges agree with it, then thats the end of it. End of discussion, end of story.

    I can also read a rulebook, and it states in there for a lift to be good, you need 2 of the 3 judges to give you a white light on the lift...which Derek got. So if you don't like it, too bad. Maybe instead of comming into this thread degrading his accomplishment, you should try and get in contact with the judges and tell THEM about your "concerns".

    And lastly, if your not a competitive lifter, why do you even care enough to post in here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by byronsru24 View Post
    To top it off, I'm pretty sure if Derek thought it was NOT a good lift, he's man enough to tell the judges to turn it down.
    That's pretty funny. Do you really think someone is going to turn down a "world record" just because they think the judges gave them a gift?

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