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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Ab myth?

    Yeah, summer time, so time to add some extra ab workouts to the routine. Now I was having this debate with another guy in my gym yesterday about side twists with a bar. He kept claiming that those widen your waist, even if you don't stack any weight on, because you train the muscle and therefor it gets thicker. Which seemed pretty in my eyes. As then, any exercise you would do to get rid of your "love handles" would in fact make your waist even more wider? I mean doing crossed sit ups is just the same then.. Basically he's saying that you shouldn't do any oblique excerices..

    I was wondering what some of your opinions are as I'm not really an expert on the ground of abs training, but as far as I can remember side twists don't hurt you..Also to get rid of love handles, besides a diet & cardio, should you focus on overal ab development or more on obliques?

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    You can't specifically do this or that exercise to get rid of love handles or any other type of fat. You can't spot reduce fat, it just doesn't work that way.

    I'll let someone more qualified talk about oblique training but I doubt it will hurt your appearance to make your muscles bigger. If you do somehow get bulky and ugly obliques, you can always just stop training them.

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    From just a physique standpoint, I have seen some people such as cover models and things like that state they do not do oblique training specifically because of that reason. But thats almost like saying someone shouldnt do crunches or whatever because they are afraid they will look prego from all that ab mass. The problem is, however, without drugs, your abs do not have the potential to get huge. So its not something I'd worry about. Oblique training, core training, etc, can help to lift more weight for the bigger stuff.

    If I were simply training for looks and not lifts, I doubt I'd waste my time doing oblique training or a ton of crunches to begin with. So its your call. I highly doubt its going to make you thick like a brick house down there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichMcGuire View Post
    From just a physique standpoint, I have seen some people such as cover models and things like that state they do not do oblique training specifically because of that reason. But thats almost like saying someone shouldnt do crunches or whatever because they are afraid they will look prego from all that ab mass. The problem is, however, without drugs, your abs do not have the potential to get huge. So its not something I'd worry about. Oblique training, core training, etc, can help to lift more weight for the bigger stuff.

    If I were simply training for looks and not lifts, I doubt I'd waste my time doing oblique training or a ton of crunches to begin with. So its your call. I highly doubt its going to make you thick like a brick house down there.
    If you're training for looks and not lifts, wouldn't you do MORE isolation excercises instead of less?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shemz View Post
    If you're training for looks and not lifts, wouldn't you do MORE isolation excercises instead of less?
    Where did I say to not do any isolation movements? You're asking about twisting around to work your obliques. Getting your body fat low is the best remedy for abs.
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    Is this an Anime forum, or bb'ing forum??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Fanelli View Post
    Is this an Anime forum, or bb'ing forum??
    You should get a Gohan avatar!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Fanelli View Post
    Is this an Anime forum, or bb'ing forum??
    Hahaha I was thinking the same thing. I'm a DBZ fan though so I can relate...

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