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    When is it time to use a belt?

    I have lifted for years without a belt, doing squats and other exercises. I'm new to deadlifting, but I am enjoying the hell out of that exercise so far.

    A question for the experts:

    When is it time to start using a belt for squats? Deads?

    - if you hurt yourself and need extra support?
    - if you start lifting more than XXX weight?
    - you never really need a belt?
    - you should always use a belt?

    Some of my BB friends, whose opinions I respect, swear by the belts and claim it really helps then keep tight and avoid injury. Others lift beltless and claim that strict form and intelligent lifting preclude the need for a belt.

    This may be a repeat of something already posted, but I couldn't find a meaningful thread with the first couple searches I tried....

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    If your pants are a bit too big a belt can help...otherwise I don't use one.
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    beltless all the way. If you feel nervous for some reason going heavy dont be scared to throught the belt on though
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    Someone posted an interesting article about how belts are not only unnecessary, but they are somewhat unsafe. Here's the link:
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    If you've got good form and are smart about your abilities, you should be fine w/o one.
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    When your pants have belt loops, that's when you wear one.
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    i havent used once since i started. i used one a few weeks ago. im happy to use a belt now but i only will on the heaviest, like ME day. even then its usually only for a final attempt. im no expert but htought id give my opinion, only wear it for the heaviest of heavies.
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    i've always worn one, usually when squatting and deadlifting, and sometimes on a standing barbell press, its more of a security blanket than anything for me, but its not an absolute necessity.
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    never.

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    If you want a weaker back you should wear one.

    Squats and deadlifts are some of the best exercises for abdominals (obviously as well as back). With a belt I think you lose all that benefit.

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    to answer the original question...

    when you dead 600lbs and squat 700lbs...u use belt any lower than that, it's just whimpy...

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    A wise man recently told me something like:

    "Lose the ego, lose the belt and you will start to get stronger"


    I am now gonna lose the belt on my heavy work. I will still wear it for box squats though to work on staying tight.
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    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
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    Say what? Explain yourself Maxi pads.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    I would say to only use a belt if you cannot perform the exercise without it. A couple of days ago I trained hams and lower back in the morning and quads in the afternoon. By the time I was ready to do squats my lower back had become completely tight from the morning session (I was having trouble with my light warm-up of one plate each side). I hadn't worn the belt for probably over a year, but what a difference it made that day. Judging from my warm-up I would either have had to go really light or just canned the squats altogether, but instead I set a personal best squatting 285 6 times. Don't wear a belt if you don't need one, but don't let anyone call you a sissy for using one at times either.

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