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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Got 9 hours sleep, body feels very slightly sore, but mostly fine..

    Gonna try and break this stall..

    If I can't, we will be switching to less frequency, something closer to twice a week..

    Someone please ask Off Road to return to my journal, I think he over-reacted..

    Thanks..

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    Last edited by Eric Cartman; 07-22-2011 at 12:23 PM.

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    Squat 45x5 45x3 65x1 85x20
    Pullover 10x20

    Bench Press 45x5 65x3 85x1 110x11

    Military Press 20x5 20x3 30x1 60x12

    Barbell Rows 10x5 10x3 30x1 50x12

    Curls 10x5 20x3 30x1 60x12

    Situp 10x12

    Comments: Just missed one rep on bench... My bench press is obviously my weakest link right now, I've just never had much strength or endurance on this lift. The fact that I'm progressing on all other lifts is a positive sign.

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    Weighing in at 165.5 today.

    I told Off Road in private message that I am willing to cut the workout frequency to twice a week if he still feels that is necessary.

    I believe the best policy is to follow the advice of more experienced lifters...

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    Squat 45x5 45x3 65x1 90x20
    Pullover 10x20

    Bench Press 45x5 65x3 85x1 110x11

    Military Press 20x3 20x3 30x1 65x9

    Bent Barbell Rows 20x5 20x3 30x2 60x12

    Curls 10x5 20x3 30x1 60x12

    Situps 10x12

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    Gonna take a few extra days off and make sure I fully recover before hitting the gym again..

    This stall WILL be destroyed...

    FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION!!!
    Last edited by Eric Cartman; 07-25-2011 at 11:22 PM.

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    Squat 45x5 45x3 65x1 95x20
    Pullover 5x20

    Bench 45x5 65x3 85x1 110x12

    Press 20x5 20x3 30x1 65x10

    Rows 20x5 20x3 50x1 70x8

    Curls 10x5 20x3 30x1 65x4

    Situp 10x12

    Comments: My spotter on bench was just way too enthusiastic today. and gave me a lot of unnecessary assistance during the set. So I can't really say that I broke the stall... I've definitely hit my current 12-rep maximums on most of these lifts. Squats are probably not gonna get hard till next week.

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    Squat 45x5 55x3 85x1 100x20
    Pullover 10x20

    Bench Press 45x5 65x3 85x1 110x9

    Military Press 20x5 20x3 30x1 65x12

    Barbell Rows 20x5 20x3 40x1 70x12

    Barbell Curls 10x5 20x3 30x1 65x6

    Situp 10x12

    OKAY I'M PISSED OFF!!!!

    That is 4 consecutive stalls on bench press, more or less.... I cut the frequency to twice a week and it didn't help... I'm getting very discouraged...

    The only reason to do an on-line journal is to get the advice of more experienced lifters...

    If anyone has any suggestions, now would be the time to give them....

    Thanks!!
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    I know this is a lifting community and a forum, but a journal is for you. Just because you invite 1000 people to your party, doesn't mean they will all show.
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    If you want people to read your journal it would be a good idea to read theirs. You may not have anything to add for programming, advice, etc...but anyone can give encouragement.

    How's your eating and sleeping?

    I know OR recommended that workout to you but have you looked into something like Greyskull Linear Progression?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StLRPh View Post
    If you want people to read your journal it would be a good idea to read theirs. You may not have anything to add for programming, advice, etc...but anyone can give encouragement.

    How's your eating and sleeping?

    I know OR recommended that workout to you but have you looked into something like Greyskull Linear Progression?
    I do read everyone's journal actually... I just don't think that a guy who is squatting 400 lbs needs a complete beginner to say to him "good job man"....

    Its more the beginner who sucks that needs encouragement from the veterans..

    Haven't heard of Greyskull Linear Progression,... I'm open to all suggestions right now, thanks for the input..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    I'm open to all suggestions right now, thanks for the input..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Off Road View Post
    No worries, mate...

    I'm just trying to be polite to everyone that comments on my journal and offers me help...

    Based on what I've learned on WBB, I think I have the tools to go forward...

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    How closely do you monitor your diet?
    Write down EVERYTHING you eat and when you eat it for a week straight. You'll probably be surprised.
    Maybe keep track of calories on fatsecret.com.

    Have you read some of the nutrition articles on here?
    http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-n...-and-strength/
    http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-n...s-mass-part-i/
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    I don't want to give conflicting advice here but I'd like to recommend the StrongLifts program. it's EXTREMELY easy to follow and uses linear progression. Everything you need to know is answered within the write-up and any questions you may have are also covered. I actually just finished a 12 week run of the program which you can check out in my journal. Perhaps it may be easier for you to follow since the training sessions are more or less set-in-stone. All you need to do is look at what needs to be lifted for the day and go do it, there's literally no thinking involved. If you're interested just google it.

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    To be fair about this, I'm not telling him he has to do the 20 rep squat program. He chose that program from another thread and I told him that there were many, many good routines to choose from. The important part for him is that he learns to stick with a basic program and find ways to get past his sticking points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Off Road View Post
    To be fair about this, I'm not telling him he has to do the 20 rep squat program. He chose that program from another thread and I told him that there were many, many good routines to choose from. The important part for him is that he learns to stick with a basic program and find ways to get past his sticking points.
    Totally agree with that OR. Consistency is without a doubt the biggest factor in the weight training game.

    What you NEED to do EC is pick a program, stick with it for the entire duration, and bust your ass hard when you're in the gym. Also eating a ton will help. I can assure you that you will make progress and you will see results. However, it's on you not us. You have to be on the one to choose a program and perform the lifts to the BEST of your ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodybob View Post
    How closely do you monitor your diet?
    Write down EVERYTHING you eat and when you eat it for a week straight. You'll probably be surprised.
    Maybe keep track of calories on fatsecret.com.

    Have you read some of the nutrition articles on here?
    http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-n...-and-strength/
    http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-n...s-mass-part-i/
    http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-n...ou-eat-part-i/
    I feel I'm doing great with the nutrition aspect of things..

    My arms and legs have grown a lot in the past 4 weeks, despite my lack of strength progress..

    This is what you might expect from a high rep routine, good hypertrophy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KIBBLES N BITS View Post
    Totally agree with that OR. Consistency is without a doubt the biggest factor in the weight training game.

    What you NEED to do EC is pick a program, stick with it for the entire duration, and bust your ass hard when you're in the gym. Also eating a ton will help. I can assure you that you will make progress and you will see results. However, it's on you not us. You have to be on the one to choose a program and perform the lifts to the BEST of your ability.
    Yes, I agree about consistency...

    I believe there will be some benefit to sticking to this routine for several more weeks and seeing where it leads me..

    I also need to work on my bench press and make sure that FORM isn't the problem here.

    I need to prove to myself that I can follow through on something and not quit when things get difficult.

    When I feel the benefits of this program have been exhausted, I am looking into a Starting Strength and similar routines of lower reps.







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    If you stick to the routine, you can use double progression to get past the sticking points, or you can cycle back down the weights. But since you want to see what you can do in a few eeks, then go with the double progression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Off Road View Post
    If you stick to the routine, you can use double progression to get past the sticking points, or you can cycle back down the weights. But since you want to see what you can do in a few eeks, then go with the double progression.
    Yes, absolutely.

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    Squat 45x5 55x3 85x1 105x19

    Bench Press 45x5 65x3 85x1 110x10 110x4 110x2

    Military Press 20x5 20x3 30x1 65x9 65x3 65x3

    Rows 20x5 20x3 40x1 80x8

    Curls 10x5 20x3 30x1 65x4 65x2 65x2

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    Rough day?
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    I see you took the other guy's advice. Hopefully he'll come in here and help you out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
    Rough day?
    Yeah, it was!

    I started with bench press and still hit my wall at 10 reps. I didn't push to failure, like you suggested, so I just added some sets.

    On the 20 rep squat, when I got to 19 reps, I just felt light-headed and was breathing really hard, so I stopped.. I'm sure thats just an endurance I need to build..

    My rows are going up nicely, .. everything else stalled today.

    I'm going to rest maybe 5 days and then come back.

    Not giving up yet, but obviously this is not going as planned...

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    Bench Press 45x5 65x3 85x1 110x4 110x12

    Curls 10x5 20x3 70x2 65x7

    Military Press 20x3 20x5 65x7 65x7

    Rows 30x5 30x3 75x8

    Squats 45x5 65x3 85x1 110x6 110x5

    COMMENTS:

    Okay... I figured out one of my problems...

    When I started working out, I could barely bench press anything.. my muscles failed after 4 reps of 110, and I just got pissed and stopped. I did some cardio warm-up, did a set of curls, then came back to the bench press, and easily hit my set of 12.

    So maybe lack of proper warm-up is what has been causing some of these failures..

    I did all my sets and sort of changed the exercise order today... when it got time to do squats at the very end, I was exhausted and admit I didn't give a full effort..

    I just don't think I am committed to this program anymore... .

    I think it might be time for a total reset, and to switch to a lower rep strength program.

    Stay tuned! This is not over!
    Last edited by Eric Cartman; 08-07-2011 at 10:13 PM.

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