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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Learning from my dogs

    I have two dogs, both of them are Border Collie mixes.

    Dog #1 is dumb as a rock. The first day we had him he walked over to my wife's purse and peed in it. I thought it was funny as hell and I liked this dog right away. But this dog is dumb and peeing in the purse should have been my first clue. He keeps making the same mistakes over and over and he is hard to train. He just doesn't listen very well and it's frustrating to try and figure out how to get the lessons accross to him. He's a fat lazy dog too. I have to watch how much I feed him because he'll eat anything you put in front of him. So, I've cut way back on his food to try to keep him at a healthy weight. What does the dog do? He stops moving and just lays around all day, so I have to feed him even less. If I feed him more, he just turns into a big pile of lard and can't move anyways.

    Dog #2 is brilliant, seriously a smart dog. I had him house trained in two weeks, he learned to come and sit in three weeks, he learned the property borders really fast, and he won't jump up on you now even if you beg him. This dog plays and runs all day long. If the fat and lazy dog is in the shade trying not to work up an appetite, the smart dog will find a stick or a ball and play fetch with himself. He's constantly running around the propert chasing birds or kids or whatever. I feed this dog like a king, and when he's hungry he eats. If he's not hungry he'll save it for later. This dog is lean and muscular and the vet is always happy with the health of this dog.

    Also, the stupid dog is always looking for attention. Always begging to come inside and scratching at the door (I hate that, have to refinish that sucker). If you open the door just a crack he'll push it open and run inside. The smart dog is the complete opposite, he's just as happy to be outside by himself. He actually has to be invited inside or he'll just stand at the open door. He likes to be petted, but he's never asked for it.
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    yeah, but what magic potions or programmes are your dumb dog paying through the nose for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by macdaknife View Post
    yeah, but what magic potions or programmes are your dumb dog paying through the nose for?
    Good point. It's usually not the dog that's paying for it, but it's the owners. Seems like the dumb dogs need so much more attention and money spent on them. The smart dogs seem just get by on simple things and look better for it.
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    Sounds like the "dumb" dog pretty much gets whatever he wants outta life....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    Sounds like the "dumb" dog pretty much gets whatever he wants outta life....
    I guess we all pretty much get what we want, otherwise we'd change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Off Road View Post
    I guess we all pretty much get what we want, otherwise we'd change.
    ha! Truer words were never said


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    A friend of mine shared something that his Chiropractor told him: "What does a dog do whenever they get up? They stretch... have you ever heard of a dog with back problems?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Mutaffis View Post
    A friend of mine shared something that his Chiropractor told him: "What does a dog do whenever they get up? They stretch... have you ever heard of a dog with back problems?"
    My dog had hip displacement and she didn't even dead lift

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommygunz90 View Post
    My dog had hip displacement and she didn't even dead lift
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Mutaffis View Post
    A friend of mine shared something that his Chiropractor told him: "What does a dog do whenever they get up? They stretch... have you ever heard of a dog with back problems?"
    Actually....yes.

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    So you never said what you have learned?


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    Yeah, and what does this have to do with weightlifting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Mutaffis View Post
    A friend of mine shared something that his Chiropractor told him: "What does a dog do whenever they get up? They stretch... have you ever heard of a dog with back problems?"
    We raised and bred German Shepherds for years when I was a young boy, they're notorious for bad hips and backs, several other breeds also have bad backs and joints genetically.
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    I would have guessed dog 1 was a female.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Off Road View Post
    Seems like the dumb dogs need so much more attention and money spent on them. The smart dogs seem just get by on simple things and look better for it.
    In a nutshell, I think this is what he was driving at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris mason View Post
    So you never said what you have learned?
    I think everybody is finding the similarities between my dogs and the different guys that do weight training, and [more to the point] guys on this forum...

    If you ask the right questions, listen to the right people, and put in the effort, you are rewarded with health and vitality. If you never listen, constantly bother everybody, and just keep doing things the way you want to do them even though they may be horrible for you, you may wind up tied to the porch and sleeping next to your own crap.
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    I think this quote from Mark ripptoe sums it up pretty well:

    "Only people willing to work to the point of discomfort on a regular basis using effective means to produce that discomfort will actually look like they have been other-than-comfortable most of the time." - Mark ripptoe
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    What's the smart dog's routine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Off Road View Post
    I think everybody is finding the similarities between my dogs and the different guys that do weight training, and [more to the point] guys on this forum...

    If you ask the right questions, listen to the right people, and put in the effort, you are rewarded with health and vitality. If you never listen, constantly bother everybody, and just keep doing things the way you want to do them even though they may be horrible for you, you may wind up tied to the porch and sleeping next to your own crap.
    It isn't always easy to know who the "right people" are on an internet forum where everyone is a total stranger... and sometimes you get contradictory answers from two different highly qualified people.

    The best thing you can do is listen to what everyone has to say and then make an informed decision based on all the information you have. I've always tried to do that to the best of my ability.

    If I'm considered a "bad dog" by some, then so be it...

    WOOF WOOF!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    It isn't always easy to know who the "right people" are on an internet forum where everyone is a total stranger... and sometimes you get contradictory answers from two different highly qualified people.

    The best thing you can do is listen to what everyone has to say and then make an informed decision based on all the information you have. I've always tried to do that to the best of my ability.

    If I'm considered a "bad dog" by some, then so be it...

    WOOF WOOF!!!!
    I believe you're looking much deeper into this than ORs post was meant to be... In fact, because you listen to people and try to improve based on that make your actions right in line with ORs message.
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    Seriously, what kind of numbers does the smart dog put up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat_Head View Post
    Seriously, what kind of numbers does the smart dog put up?
    It's not all about the numbers, but I've seen him use perfect squatting form
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    Quote Originally Posted by Off Road View Post
    It's not all about the numbers, but I've seen him use perfect squatting form
    Screw form. It's all about the numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    Screw form. It's all about the numbers.
    Okay, okay...I've seen him deliver BIG loads with perfect squat form...happy now?

    Of course this has just went from a silly post with a subtle lifting message to total "Chit-Chat" material and I'll have to move it now - lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Mutaffis View Post
    A friend of mine shared something that his Chiropractor told him: "What does a dog do whenever they get up? They stretch... have you ever heard of a dog with back problems?"
    If humans continued to move around on all 4`s we`d have less back issues also.

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