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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Good decision or newbie mistake?

    I have previously run HCT-12 for several months. I put 1" on my thighs, 2.5" on my back and chest, 1.25" on my forearms, and 3/4" on my neck. My upper arm did not grow at all despite, a good deal of strength increase on the barbell curl. I wanted to experiment with higher reps. I have been trying out WS4SB III for the past few weeks. It's fun but I am having some doubts.

    What I like:
    low volume max effort lifts
    high volume accessories
    experimenting with isolation (already noticing difference in rear delt)
    cool to get a pump from a workout (I know it doesn't matter, but I never got it before)

    What I don't like:
    only one chance at max effort PR per fortnight (assuming deadlift/squat alternated weekly)
    shrugs and grip training seem redundant (could just focus on deadlift)
    not very rigid programming (I'm a beginner)

    I am still very much a beginner:
    First pin rack pull: 355x6 (+2+2+2)
    14" Box Squat: 215x6 (+2+2+2)
    Bench Press: 165x6 (+2+2+2)

    What is a program that has squats and deadlift every week, and higher rep accessory work?
    Should I just get on a basic 5x5 and stop worrying about accessories?
    Am I just being a newbie, changing systems, or are these legitimate concerns?

    Thanks,
    Dan
    Last edited by BallsWideDeep; 08-02-2011 at 07:36 AM.

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    I know this might be a crazy idea, but.... you ever considered developing your own program, based on what you enjoy doing, and what seems to help you make progress?
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    Hey, if you enjoy the accessory work, then do it. Nothing wrong with it as long as it doesn't interfere with your goals or progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    I know this might be a crazy idea, but.... you ever considered developing your own program, based on what you enjoy doing, and what seems to help you make progress?
    hahaha. Yes. It has crossed my mind. Just didn't know if that was a reasonable thing for a newbie. What about something like this?

    Day 1:
    BB Bench Press (3-5 Rep Max)
    DB Incline Press (3x12)
    Barbell Row/Rear Delt Fly Superset (3x12)
    Weighted Dips (3x6-10)

    Day 2:
    Rest/Cardio

    Day 3:
    Box Squat (3-5 Rep Max)
    Iso-Lateral Leg Press (3 x 12)
    DB Curl (3x12)
    Seated Calve Raise(3x12)

    Day 4:
    Rest

    Day 5:
    OH BB Press (3-5 Rep Max)
    OH DB Press (3x12)
    EZ Skullcrushers (3x12)
    Lateral Raises (3x12)

    Day 6:
    Rest/Cardio

    Day 7 :
    Deadlift (3-5 Rep Max)
    Pullups/Face Pull Superset(3x6-10)
    Weighted Hyper (3x12)
    Weighted Abdominal (3x10) - 10 front and 10 each side per set

    Day 8:
    Rest
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    I like it. Pretty straightforward, hits the major lifts. I'd mix up box squats and regular squats, but that's just me.

    Nothing magical about routines really, mate. Some people like having all the progression written down for them, but it's really not a concrete science. As long as you listen to your body and load/deload when you feel like it, you should do well.
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    Thanks. Just ate a bunch of oatmeal and chicken. Lifting in about an hour. I'm on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    I know this might be a crazy idea, but.... you ever considered developing your own program, based on what you enjoy doing, and what seems to help you make progress?
    blasphemy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    I know this might be a crazy idea, but.... you ever considered developing your own program, based on what you enjoy doing, and what seems to help you make progress?



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    Quote Originally Posted by chevelle2291 View Post


    This is fantastic
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