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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Do you like how bodybuilding has changed over the years?

    I can honestly say that I am both fans of "modern" bodybuilders, old-school bodybuilders, and "middle-school" bodybuilders (the guys who are "on the edge" of reaching the modern era of MONSTROSITY).



    The way I see it, bodybuilding is either an art or a sport depending on how you percieve it. The "artistic" aspect of it comes from men building the ultimate adonis physique. The athletic aspect of it is more about who is leaner or who is bigger.

    I know nothing about bodybuilding, but I do know that it has "evolved" over the years. Much like how powerlifting have bigger numbers now compared to the times of its conception (when no one has yet to bench press 500 pounds), bodybuilders now are bigger and leaner.

    So do you like it the way it is???????? Has the advances of steroids influence the sport "for the better?"

    What are your thoughts on this?

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    If I were to compete in bodybuilding then I would rather be in the 'pumping iron' era. Not only was their look more aesthetic, but there seemed to be more camaraderie back then.
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    Yes, I like it, drugs and all.

    Not a huge fan of some of the out of control midsections, but everything else is simply amazing. The level of development is motivating, even if it's unattainable.



    I mean, that's awesome.
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    Chevelle just ended this discussion. lol

    I love the aesthetic looking flow of the old school bodybuilders but its exciting as fuck to see the freaks out there keep getting bigger and bigger.


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    Chev why is there only one white guy pictured? You racist brah? lmao

    I think I share the opinion of most here, older bodybuilders are amazing, love the look, but love seeing freaks like Kai, Ronnie, and the big dudes, they just freaking keep getting huge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark! View Post
    Chev why is there only one white guy pictured? You racist brah? lmao

    I think I share the opinion of most here, older bodybuilders are amazing, love the look, but love seeing freaks like Kai, Ronnie, and the big dudes, they just freaking keep getting huge.
    Fine...I guess there are at least a few decent white bodybuilders.....












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    ohhhhh........it's not that big as above.................

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    I like them too. Markus Ruhl is my favorite modern bodybuilder.

    Mike Mentzer is my favorite old-school bodybuilder, and Tom Platz is my favorite "middle-school" bodybuilder.

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    I dislike the new era, where these guys have become superhuman freaks. Nothing against them, but I've always wondered what they would look like if they stayed natty and kept working at it.
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    I liked it back then and I like it now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat_Head View Post
    I dislike the new era, where these guys have become superhuman freaks. Nothing against them, but I've always wondered what they would look like if they stayed natty and kept working at it.
    I think if the likes of Arnold and the pumping iron era would have had access to labs, equipment and supplements as we have today, he would have gotten just as freakishly huge. It's not like Arnold or any of them were natty back then.
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    I think steroids are one of human's greatest inventions. Society condemns them as "evil" because it is scared of anything that is unknown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bee_Brian View Post
    Has the advances of steroids influence the sport "for the better?
    I don't think steroids have advanced much in the last 20-30 years. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong.

    GH use for sure has increased and when Ronnie Coleman was in his heyday I did not like his look at all. His bloated stomach was disgusting. I'm glad the judges are now taking points off for that.

    So I liked the old era and I like it now, but I didn't like the GH free for all that was going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bee_Brian View Post
    I think steroids are one of human's greatest inventions. Society condemns them as "evil" because it is scared of anything that is unknown.
    I don't think that's the case at all, I think that steroids are pretty well known and understood. I think of steroids a bit like boob jobs (breast implants). Some people find them perfectly acceptable while others can't understand why someone would want something that isn't natural.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holto View Post
    I don't think steroids have advanced much in the last 20-30 years. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong.

    GH use for sure has increased and when Ronnie Coleman was in his heyday I did not like his look at all. His bloated stomach was disgusting. I'm glad the judges are now taking points off for that.

    So I liked the old era and I like it now, but I didn't like the GH free for all that was going on.
    Eh, I think anabolics have definitely been taken to a whole new level of development. Lots of unusual, effective compounds out there that weren't around during the 70s.

    The judges aren't taking off points for guts. Kai Greene had(s) one of the biggest, if not the biggest, gut in the IFBB and he won the Arnold just last year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Off Road View Post
    I don't think that's the case at all, I think that steroids are pretty well known and understood. I think of steroids a bit like boob jobs (breast implants). Some people find them perfectly acceptable while others can't understand why someone would want something that isn't natural.
    There's a LOT of sensationalism when it comes to steroids. I think a lot of guys here who use can attest to that. The general public thinks that if one is using anabolics, then they will automatically get gyno, have hair loss, etc. Sure, those things happen, but the cases you hear about the most in the news are the result of steroid ABUSE, not responsible use. It's the same approach the media takes when it covers rec drugs. Are they good for you? Nope. Will they kill you? Doubtful, depending on what you're using.

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    I feel as if the physiques presented today are done so in bad taste. Bodybuilding of the 70's was more like an art show where today it is more of a circus. I mean, its gone from being 40-60lbs above average muscle mass to 150lbs over in just muscle.

    On the flip side, the guys today work harder. Any advance in recovery ability via drug developement just means you "get" to workout more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bee_Brian View Post
    I like them too. Markus Ruhl is my favorite modern bodybuilder.

    Mike Mentzer is my favorite old-school bodybuilder, and Tom Platz is my favorite "middle-school" bodybuilder.
    Mentzer and Platz are from the same era. Both were amazing, but neither had staying power.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chevelle2291 View Post
    Eh, I think anabolics have definitely been taken to a whole new level of development. Lots of unusual, effective compounds out there that weren't around during the 70s.
    Oh really? Cool. Such as? To my knowledge the most commonly used anabolics like Testosterone Enanthate etc have been around for decades. Apparently Testosterone Enanthate was invented in 1950.


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    The judges aren't taking off points for guts. Kai Greene had(s) one of the biggest, if not the biggest, gut in the IFBB and he won the Arnold just last year
    Well it's not like the IFBB can put this on their public website, they'd like to deny all drug use. I read numerous places that they judges were taking points off for GH guts right around the time that Ronnie's GH gut miraculously disappeared. Could be a coincidence. Maybe they only do it for the Olympia.

    Edit: Kai Greene's gut = puke.
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    I see everyone from Steve Reeves to Jay Cutler as inspiration to us all. All of 'em were champions in their own right. Just like the judges, we all have our personal preferences as far as ideal size and symmetry go. I was always a huge fan of Bertil Fox and Dorian Yates, however the two most aesthetic (and diggable by chics) I can think of would be Francis Benfatto and Flex Wheeler. Too bad Flex quit when he did. Ronnie just scared him off.

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    Steroids have not advanced in the last 20 years due to the fact that they are illegal and a felony since 1991, therefore no reputable labs are doing a bunch of research on them since they will not make that much money off of them, like viagra, vicodin etc. @ 4g6, steroids do not necessarily help you recover faster, sure the muscle may become repaired faster but you still have to keep the cns in mind, which steroids do not help the cns recover. Steroids for "recovery" is a bunch of BS, people don't take them to recover faster to workout more. They take them to gain more muscle faster, or to get stronger. The reason why some bodybuilders can train 5-6 times a week to failure is because they have been doing it for years and they have adapted to their training, not because of steroids. Its the same reason why professional football players can practice and then go lift a respectable amount afterwards, because they have been training for years consistantly at a very high level. Not linking steroids to football just using another example of what the human body with great genetics can adapt too.

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