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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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  1. #76
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    Brewdog is excellent- they have wide distribution over here. it's entirely possibly I've sampled their entire line..
    "Except Belial. He knows everything. This isn't a sarcastic attack, either. He really knows everything." -----Organichu
    "Alex is all knowing and perfect"-----Jane (loosely paraphrased)
    -515/745/700 bench/deadlift/squat
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    Decent workout yesterday, still playing with the shirt- trying to learn to trust it.

    Bench press:

    bar x a bunch
    135 x 10
    225 x 10
    315 x 6
    365 x 4
    405 x 1
    added shirt
    405 x 1
    435 x 1
    450 x 2 (didn't mean to do a second rep, but the first felt pretty easy)
    no shirt
    315 x 8

    bench w/doubled lights (+180 pounds at the top)
    225 + 180 x 6
    245 + 180 x 3
    275 + 180 x 1
    315 + 180 x 0

    This was hilarious. Hit a wall halfway up. Oh well.

    Barbell rows (315), cable rows, windshield wipers, flags, CURLZZZ (65's), then a quick run:

    2.5 miles, 8:00 pace (loosen up)
    4 x 100 meter strides (25 meters lead up, 50 meter fast, 25 meter cooldown)

    That was it. Went home.
    "Except Belial. He knows everything. This isn't a sarcastic attack, either. He really knows everything." -----Organichu
    "Alex is all knowing and perfect"-----Jane (loosely paraphrased)
    -515/745/700 bench/deadlift/squat
    Current mile time: 4:23
    Marathons: 3
    Century races: 3
    Ironmans: 1
    Ultramarathons: 1
    Current supps: http://www.atlargenutrition.com/prod...covery/results

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    your diet is an inspiration.
    My journal
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    500(495x1) ATG Squat
    Total: 1500(1350)
    365 Front Squat
    consistency and intensity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dynamo View Post
    your diet is an inspiration.
    Thanks man, it takes a LOT of dedication to get in that full variety of beverages every evening. And a lot of trips to the beer store.
    "Except Belial. He knows everything. This isn't a sarcastic attack, either. He really knows everything." -----Organichu
    "Alex is all knowing and perfect"-----Jane (loosely paraphrased)
    -515/745/700 bench/deadlift/squat
    Current mile time: 4:23
    Marathons: 3
    Century races: 3
    Ironmans: 1
    Ultramarathons: 1
    Current supps: http://www.atlargenutrition.com/prod...covery/results

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex.V View Post
    Thanks man, it takes a LOT of dedication to get in that full variety of beverages every evening. And a lot of trips to the beer store.
    I'm running to the beer store is where your mileage comes from!
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    I may have a partial labrum tear. Would explain a lot. Got one of the best sports med/ortho guys on the east coast checking it out Friday. Helps to know people.

    Did a quick bike today- 12 miles, 30 minutes. Hit some hills hard. Came home.
    "Except Belial. He knows everything. This isn't a sarcastic attack, either. He really knows everything." -----Organichu
    "Alex is all knowing and perfect"-----Jane (loosely paraphrased)
    -515/745/700 bench/deadlift/squat
    Current mile time: 4:23
    Marathons: 3
    Century races: 3
    Ironmans: 1
    Ultramarathons: 1
    Current supps: http://www.atlargenutrition.com/prod...covery/results

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    name change?

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    Yes. Real name, even. Figured it was about time...
    "Except Belial. He knows everything. This isn't a sarcastic attack, either. He really knows everything." -----Organichu
    "Alex is all knowing and perfect"-----Jane (loosely paraphrased)
    -515/745/700 bench/deadlift/squat
    Current mile time: 4:23
    Marathons: 3
    Century races: 3
    Ironmans: 1
    Ultramarathons: 1
    Current supps: http://www.atlargenutrition.com/prod...covery/results

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    How do you manage the relatively high volume with the weights and the cardio? Add a little bit every week? I'm only doing the main lifts with 5/3/1 with my cardio and I'm scurred I'll get to looking like those male models who look like girls if I add any assistance work.
    My journal
    Goal(Current):
    400(335) Bench Press
    600(520x3 2xBW) Dead Lift
    500(495x1) ATG Squat
    Total: 1500(1350)
    365 Front Squat
    consistency and intensity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dynamo View Post
    How do you manage the relatively high volume with the weights and the cardio? Add a little bit every week? I'm only doing the main lifts with 5/3/1 with my cardio and I'm scurred I'll get to looking like those male models who look like girls if I add any assistance work.
    Actually, the assistance stuff is relatively low volume.... it's really just the main lift for me, one secondary lift, then one accessory and abs/core. The accessory lifts aren't really that taxing anyway, it's more about the total cardio volume.

    Hardest thing has been scheduling my workouts to maximize recovery for each particular muscle group- making sure that anything I'm taxing from a lifting standpoint is given sufficient recovery time before I hit it again. (Hence my thursday ME lower day is followed by a full rest day, which is also a carb loading day... and my tuesday ME upper day is followed by at least three days out of the pool, giving my upper body a break).

    As far as assistance work goes, what were you thinking of incorporating?
    "Except Belial. He knows everything. This isn't a sarcastic attack, either. He really knows everything." -----Organichu
    "Alex is all knowing and perfect"-----Jane (loosely paraphrased)
    -515/745/700 bench/deadlift/squat
    Current mile time: 4:23
    Marathons: 3
    Century races: 3
    Ironmans: 1
    Ultramarathons: 1
    Current supps: http://www.atlargenutrition.com/prod...covery/results

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex.V View Post
    Actually, the assistance stuff is relatively low volume.... it's really just the main lift for me, one secondary lift, then one accessory and abs/core. The accessory lifts aren't really that taxing anyway, it's more about the total cardio volume.

    Hardest thing has been scheduling my workouts to maximize recovery for each particular muscle group- making sure that anything I'm taxing from a lifting standpoint is given sufficient recovery time before I hit it again. (Hence my thursday ME lower day is followed by a full rest day, which is also a carb loading day... and my tuesday ME upper day is followed by at least three days out of the pool, giving my upper body a break).

    As far as assistance work goes, what were you thinking of incorporating?
    Interesting, I do squats on tuesday to maximize my recovery for deadlifts on friday but now with cardio I'm not sure its enough time.

    I was thinking about dips on bench day, leg extensions on squat day, dumbbell press on press day and good mornings on dead lift day and dropping the rest of the assistance lifts. I am usually rather intense with my assistance work, so maybe lower the weight, and keep to 3 sets of 10. How does that sound?
    My journal
    Goal(Current):
    400(335) Bench Press
    600(520x3 2xBW) Dead Lift
    500(495x1) ATG Squat
    Total: 1500(1350)
    365 Front Squat
    consistency and intensity.

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    I don't think that'd be a problem at all. The human body, I'm finding, has a pretty remarkable ability to adapt to whatever you throw at it. If your cardio's relatively low intensity, chances are you aren't appreciably exhausting your glycogen stores during those workouts, so your lifting shouldn't suffer all that much.

    The assistance work, well, same thing really- a few sets of good mornings aren't going to hinder your recovery all that much. I don't know about leg extensions- I'd probably do single leg leg press or something similar instead, but otherwise... go wild and give it a shot. Certainly won't hurt- the overall work your system is doing week to week won't exactly explode, and you won't demolish your recovery. Just take care that you're going easy on, say, hill workouts and keeping your pace down for the first day or so after your leg workouts, to give things a chance to really start repairing.
    "Except Belial. He knows everything. This isn't a sarcastic attack, either. He really knows everything." -----Organichu
    "Alex is all knowing and perfect"-----Jane (loosely paraphrased)
    -515/745/700 bench/deadlift/squat
    Current mile time: 4:23
    Marathons: 3
    Century races: 3
    Ironmans: 1
    Ultramarathons: 1
    Current supps: http://www.atlargenutrition.com/prod...covery/results

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    Sounds good, I'll give it a shot, thanks!
    My journal
    Goal(Current):
    400(335) Bench Press
    600(520x3 2xBW) Dead Lift
    500(495x1) ATG Squat
    Total: 1500(1350)
    365 Front Squat
    consistency and intensity.

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    quadruple workout post ftw, lol
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    Yeah, for some reason every time I tried to post the update, it said it was under moderation. I'm thinking, awesome, so I can post my usual worthless replies in general chat or some curmudgeonly bullshit in the diet section no problem, but I try to show folks that I actually DO work out, and it doesn't go through.

    Oh well.
    "Except Belial. He knows everything. This isn't a sarcastic attack, either. He really knows everything." -----Organichu
    "Alex is all knowing and perfect"-----Jane (loosely paraphrased)
    -515/745/700 bench/deadlift/squat
    Current mile time: 4:23
    Marathons: 3
    Century races: 3
    Ironmans: 1
    Ultramarathons: 1
    Current supps: http://www.atlargenutrition.com/prod...covery/results

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    Took it easy on my ME leg day- feeling a bit beat up, not sleeping enough, so just did some conventional pulls.

    Deadlifts (conventional)
    135 x 10
    225 x 6
    315 x 6
    405 x 6
    495 x 2
    545 x 2
    315 x 4

    Haven't pulled conventional much at all, do sort of appreciate it. No need to rip so quickly, can just brute force the thing up and it goes. Might see how much I can push these in the future. it's certainly easier on my hips.... though not pulling 6 plates is sort of lame.

    SLDLs:
    405 x 10
    315 x 12
    315 x 12

    More for the stretch.

    Single legged leg press, some lateral raises (more for rehab), then went out on a short run:

    Run: 5.2 miles, 8:15 pace.

    I need a few days off, I think.
    "Except Belial. He knows everything. This isn't a sarcastic attack, either. He really knows everything." -----Organichu
    "Alex is all knowing and perfect"-----Jane (loosely paraphrased)
    -515/745/700 bench/deadlift/squat
    Current mile time: 4:23
    Marathons: 3
    Century races: 3
    Ironmans: 1
    Ultramarathons: 1
    Current supps: http://www.atlargenutrition.com/prod...covery/results

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex.V View Post
    though not pulling 6 plates is sort of lame.
    this.


    Quote Originally Posted by Alex.V View Post
    I need a few days off, I think.
    and this.

    I put in 90+ throws with a stone last week and ended up pulling my groin on saturday morning. What started out as a deload and throws only week turned into another deload week with no throws and rehab. *sigh* Gotta listen to the cues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSully View Post
    this.



    and this.

    I put in 90+ throws with a stone last week and ended up pulling my groin on saturday morning. What started out as a deload and throws only week turned into another deload week with no throws and rehab. *sigh* Gotta listen to the cues.
    Yes indeed. Sometimes your body occasionally informs you that it is no longer interested in doing much productive, and that you can fuck off thank you very much.

    (I've always been a pussy pulling conventional, though... it's usually about 100 pounds behind my sumo)
    "Except Belial. He knows everything. This isn't a sarcastic attack, either. He really knows everything." -----Organichu
    "Alex is all knowing and perfect"-----Jane (loosely paraphrased)
    -515/745/700 bench/deadlift/squat
    Current mile time: 4:23
    Marathons: 3
    Century races: 3
    Ironmans: 1
    Ultramarathons: 1
    Current supps: http://www.atlargenutrition.com/prod...covery/results

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex.V View Post
    (I've always been a pussy pulling conventional, though... it's usually about 100 pounds behind my sumo)
    I'm opposite. I suspect adductor flexibility is a major issue (and hence an issue with the continued aggravation from stone throws). Highest I've pulled sumo is 495 and felt like it was going to rip my adductors off the bone. So tight, just not comfortable. I've got relatively short legs (30" inseam @ 6' tall) and a long arms/torso so conventional is fantastic for me (even then I'm still pulling less than you, haha). Bench is absolutely terrible though.

    agree on "fuck off thank you very much".. they say your mind is your limit, hrmm... not so much for me lately, lol..
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    should take a vid of those deads/squats sometime. The stares in that gym would be worth it alone, haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSully View Post
    I'm opposite. I suspect adductor flexibility is a major issue (and hence an issue with the continued aggravation from stone throws). Highest I've pulled sumo is 495 and felt like it was going to rip my adductors off the bone. So tight, just not comfortable. I've got relatively short legs (30" inseam @ 6' tall) and a long arms/torso so conventional is fantastic for me (even then I'm still pulling less than you, haha). Bench is absolutely terrible though.

    agree on "fuck off thank you very much".. they say your mind is your limit, hrmm... not so much for me lately, lol..
    See, my problem with conventional is that my legs are stupid long. In fact, my mechanics are totally fucked overall. but lately, hip flexibility has gone to shit, so I might need to start working on conventional pulling.

    Yeah, no, mind is willing, flesh is.. beyond weak. hahaha.

    Chevy- man, I get funny looks in there even when I'm not lifting anything.


    Saturday was a semi-DE bench day.

    Bench press:

    Bar x lots
    135 x 10
    225 x 10
    315 x 8
    275 x 3 x 6 (all were quite fast)

    Skullcrushers:

    135 x 10
    155 x 7
    155 x 8

    Hammer strength shoulder press (4 plates per side), 3 sets of 8
    Cable crossovers, 3 sets of 8
    Windshield wipers, hanging leg raises.


    Sunday:

    No lift. Just a bike.
    Bike:

    101 miles, ~17 mph

    Fuck me, this hurt like a bitch. Didn't help that I went out for the first thirty miles with a friend of mine and we raced every hill.

    My body has no fucking clue what I just did to it.
    Last edited by Alex.V; 03-04-2012 at 05:29 PM.
    "Except Belial. He knows everything. This isn't a sarcastic attack, either. He really knows everything." -----Organichu
    "Alex is all knowing and perfect"-----Jane (loosely paraphrased)
    -515/745/700 bench/deadlift/squat
    Current mile time: 4:23
    Marathons: 3
    Century races: 3
    Ironmans: 1
    Ultramarathons: 1
    Current supps: http://www.atlargenutrition.com/prod...covery/results

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    Saturday was a semi-DE bench day.

    Bench press:

    Bar x lots
    135 x 10
    225 x 10
    315 x 8
    275 x 3 x 6 (all were quite fast)

    Skullcrushers:

    135 x 10
    155 x 7
    155 x 8

    Hammer strength shoulder press (4 plates per side), 3 sets of 8
    Cable crossovers, 3 sets of 8
    Windshield wipers, hanging leg raises.


    Sunday:

    No lift. Just a bike.
    Bike:

    101 miles, ~17 mph

    Fuck me, this hurt like a bitch. Didn't help that I went out for the first thirty miles with a friend of mine and we raced every hill.

    My body has no fucking clue what I just did to it.
    "Except Belial. He knows everything. This isn't a sarcastic attack, either. He really knows everything." -----Organichu
    "Alex is all knowing and perfect"-----Jane (loosely paraphrased)
    -515/745/700 bench/deadlift/squat
    Current mile time: 4:23
    Marathons: 3
    Century races: 3
    Ironmans: 1
    Ultramarathons: 1
    Current supps: http://www.atlargenutrition.com/prod...covery/results

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    Pah, yeah, I always feel like a wuss whenever I don't pull 6 plates too.

    PS - 101 miles??? Were you being chased by a lion?!
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    Nah, the lion woulda caught me. I was slow as shit on that ride.

    So my legs were toast but figured I had to get in a second, semi-DE leg day.

    Decided to try pulling conventional, ended up being less DE than expected.

    Conventional deadlifts:

    135 x 10
    225 x 6
    315 x 6
    405 x 4
    495 x 2
    545 x 2
    585 x 1
    405 x 3

    Yeah, that 585 was ugly as shit. I am not built for conventional.

    Speed squats, light bands (+90 pounds at top)

    135 x 10
    225 x 10
    315 x 3 x 8

    Did some calf raises, came home. My legs are still fucking garbage from yesterday.
    "Except Belial. He knows everything. This isn't a sarcastic attack, either. He really knows everything." -----Organichu
    "Alex is all knowing and perfect"-----Jane (loosely paraphrased)
    -515/745/700 bench/deadlift/squat
    Current mile time: 4:23
    Marathons: 3
    Century races: 3
    Ironmans: 1
    Ultramarathons: 1
    Current supps: http://www.atlargenutrition.com/prod...covery/results

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    Who is this Alex character? Sounds made up to me

    I think if you do some consistent conventional pulling that it will benefit your sumo in the long run and you will pull even more. That's my my $.01 anyway(Only counts for 1 cent since I only weigh 165)
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