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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Cardio help

    I don't see anything for cardio so I will try here. Hope this is the right place.

    I never do cardio but tried to start but after four minutes jumping rope I feel like my heart is going to burst. I get a burning sensation in my chest and throat. I had a few tests done and everything came back ok. Could this be I'm just out of "cardio shape". I can't even jog 50yds without stopping to catch my breath. I don't do cardio thing often enough to try and help things. What are your guys suggestions? Also I'm 27. Around 190-200lbs. Pretty good shape. Any help would be great. Thanks guys
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    Yes, you're just out of cardio shape. I know a lot of huge guys who can't even climb the stairs without running out of breath.

    Start with brisk walking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D-RAS03 View Post
    after four minutes jumping rope I feel like my heart is going to burst. I can't even jog 50yds without stopping to catch my breath.
    Quote Originally Posted by D-RAS03 View Post
    I'm 27. Around 190-200lbs. Pretty good shape.
    Does not compute.

    How tall are you?
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    Why not put this in some perspective.

    When you started training / lifting weights X years ago, odds are the first time you went into the gym, you lifted low weight and "maxed out" pretty early, right? Now after training for X years, you are pretty "weight lifting fit".

    Today you stepped into the "cardio gym" and started "lifting" low weight and "maxed out' pretty quickly.

    What do you suppose you should do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by r2473 View Post
    Why not put this in some perspective.

    When you started training / lifting weights X years ago, odds are the first time you went into the gym, you lifted low weight and "maxed out" pretty early, right? Now after training for X years, you are pretty "weight lifting fit".

    Today you stepped into the "cardio gym" and started "lifting" low weight and "maxed out' pretty quickly.

    What do you suppose you should do?
    Makes a lot of sense. I just figured I would ask to be on the safe side. See if anyone else encountered the same thing and had an health problem. I come from a family line of bad hearts so it always kind of freaks me out.
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    How high should my heart beat be while doing cardio? I got the results back from my holter monitor and during my cardio my beats got up to 173bpm. Doctor says could be just because I'm out cardio shape but I don't really trust him. So what would be to high? Target range for cardio? Your take on my 173 rate. Thanks guys.
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    Drop your intensity. If the point is to be building any level of endurance, reduce the intensity so your heart rate is more in the 125-150 range. You're redlining right now, and chances are you're simply dipping into your anaerobic energy stores to fuel these short workouts.

    Start out doing a ten or fifteen minute jog, and focus on moving at a pace slow enough that you can more or less carry on a brief conversation. Check your heart rate there.. that's what you should be going for right now.
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    Will do thanks a lot.
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    Sure man. Just remember, cardio isn't like lifting- giving it all you got at that moment isn't the way to improve. Think of it more like sex- it's quality over time. No sense rockin it for 30 seconds, that isn't going to impress anybody. Then again, shuffling along for hours isn't going to get you anywhere either.
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    Good way of putting it.
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    yea, I was the same way for a while, it will build up fairly quickly. I used to struggle to do a mile, about a year later I can do about 4 in a half hour-ish. Not super great, but good enough for me!

    PS. Running sucks but I think I'm addicted now just like lifting! lol

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    Thanks. I'm hoping I can get there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D-RAS03 View Post
    How high should my heart beat be while doing cardio? I got the results back from my holter monitor and during my cardio my beats got up to 173bpm. Doctor says could be just because I'm out cardio shape but I don't really trust him. So what would be to high? Target range for cardio? Your take on my 173 rate. Thanks guys.
    How long can you run / maintain pace working at 173 bpm?

    I run approx a 10K distances 3-5 times per week and maintain a 160-165 bpm.

    173 seems just fine to me, but like belial says, it won't do you any good if you are only running for 5 minutes or something. Find a pace you can maintain for your entire run, however long that might be. As you get better, you could toss a few sprints into the mix, but for now, "pace" running and building up an aerobic base is what you really want to be doing IMO.

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    How long? Im gassed at 4-5 mintutes.
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    stick with the previous advice... HR at 125-150bpm about 20 minutes a day starting out... with a family history of heart issues you should never stop your cardio for more than a few weeks man. try swimming too. but not sprint swimming... liesure laps
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    Quote Originally Posted by r2473 View Post
    How long can you run / maintain pace working at 173 bpm?

    I run approx a 10K distances 3-5 times per week and maintain a 160-165 bpm.

    173 seems just fine to me, but like belial says, it won't do you any good if you are only running for 5 minutes or something. Find a pace you can maintain for your entire run, however long that might be. As you get better, you could toss a few sprints into the mix, but for now, "pace" running and building up an aerobic base is what you really want to be doing IMO.
    That's a training issue there... You know those elite roadies out there who can maintain 175-185 bpm for five hours- that's not the average human.
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    Thanks guys. I will update in a week for reference.
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    Is there anything specific I should do before and after cardio? Like lifting you should have a good meal before a shake after followed by another meal.

    Also did 3minutes and 30seconds today got up to 170bpm and pretty tired. Just going to try a little more everyday.
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    Anyone? I'd hate to be missing something that could help me.
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    After 3.5 minutes of cardio? No real special recovery needed, man...

    170 bpm. Way too high. Take it down a notch there, killer.
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    I didn't think I was going to fast. I will slow it down a little bit though. I was able to get an extra minute in today. Still tired at the end but was easier getting there. But still got up to around 170.
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    Slowed down a little bit. Not much. Got to 8min with a heart rate of 160bpm and it's dropping down faster than before after the workout. So I hope this is an improvement.
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    dude... slow down!!! you need at least 20minutes of cardio to make a difference.... its not sprinting man. steady state cardio... HR 125-140... you should be able to talk the whole time, and never out of breath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZAR-FIT View Post
    dude... slow down!!! you need at least 20minutes of cardio to make a difference.... its not sprinting man. steady state cardio... HR 125-140... you should be able to talk the whole time, and never out of breath.
    This last time was slow enough I could carry on a conversation and never got out of breath. Just stopped from legs burning and slight cramping.
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