The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness
Latest Article

The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
More Recent Articles
Contrast Training for Size
By: Lee Boyce
An Interview with Marianne Kane of Girls Gone Strong
By: Jordan Syatt
What Supplements Should I be Taking? By: Jay Wainwright
Bench Like a Girl By: Julia Ladewski
Some Thoughts on Building a Big Pull By: Christopher Mason

Facebook Join Facebook Group       Twitter Follow on Twitter       rss Subscribe via RSS
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 53
  1. #1
    I Decide My Limitations Leeman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    269

    My journey to finding out what it takes to deadlift 1000lbs

    I love keeping a training log. it really motivates me to push my self harder when I know il have to show people my workouts, and I know for sure that I work smarter when ever its easier for me to keep track of what Im doing and have a place to write down my thoughts and bounce them off other people/get suggestions on any issues I may face

    this log may be filled with injuries, excuses, and general bitching and whining about things that only I can help my self overcome.. none the less Il be writing it all here for you guys to see... for better or worse.

    I want to start off by saying that Iam very open to suggestions of all sorts about diet/training/rehab/prehab/supplements etc, and appreciate input from those who are confident their advice is what I need to hear... but for me to actually take the advice it has to make sense to me and fit in with what I know works for me. it doesnt mean I dont appreciate the input, or dont respect the people giving me their time and effort to help me, I just find that feeling confident in what Iam doing is very important for my training, even if it is totally a placebo effect.

    I keep my training logs more like a blog than anything, and like to let the people who follow my log in on my life somewhat so that I feel that the people reading know me on a more personal level. I find doing that creates more of online team of mental support and help than just random strangers coming in to say "good job", so feel free to post in here as often as you like, if I didnt want people to post in my training log I wouldnt keep it online on a popular bodybuilding/powerlifting forum.

    Il continue to write a little more about my self over the next few days on here, so that the first few pages of my log tells people alot about myself and how I arrived at this point.
    Last edited by Brian Hopper; 11-19-2012 at 12:44 PM.
    YOU CANT BUY STRENGTH

  2.    Support Wannabebig and use AtLarge Nutrition Supplements!


  3. #2
    I Decide My Limitations Leeman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    269
    did back/biceps today

    cheating yates rows with straps (bar not passing my knees, using hip drive)
    135x10
    225x10
    315x10
    straps on
    405x10
    495x10
    585x5

    wide grip pullup
    me x 13 good form

    neutral grip pullup
    me x 11 not locking my arms out

    t-bar pulldown to sternum leaning back a lot
    stack x 15ish

    rope pulldown to sternum leaning back a lot
    3/4th stack x 15ish

    wide grip pulldown to sternum leaning back a lot
    3/4th stack x 15ish

    wide grip pulldown
    3/4th stack x 15ish

    wide grip cable row to my face, for rear delts
    2 sets of 15ish reps

    incline bench dumbbell curl
    40's x 3 sets of 10-20 reps

    standing dumbbell curl
    40'sx 10+ reps

    single arm cable curl in the front double bicep position
    30lbs on the stack for 3 sets of 10-15 reps

    25lb plate cross body hammer curls
    3 sets of 10-20 reps


    I do a lot of bodybuilding work, its also a passion of mine and training for size gains has always been important to me.

    I find for back work that the cheating yates rows I do help my deadlift more than anything, they give me the ability to REALLY overload my lats and the hip drive around my knees really helps with power around that area and helping me lockout heavy weights on deadlifts. by far my chosen lat exercise for improving my deadlift.

    the majority of my back work is done rowing towards my belly or my sternum, I dont find pullups or pulldowns to be nearly as beneficial for deadlifting strength as rowing movements done that way. I think your lats job are to hold your shoulders and upper back in position during the lift, and so they should be primarily trained in that same position (which is why i love yates rows, and generally rows that simulate a bent over rowing movement)

    I also think its important to have a rowing exercise where you go heavy where you dont let your shoulders come forwards to stretch your lats, and also movements where you let your shoulders come forwards and then pull them back to contract your lats. one of them being more of a static contraction (more similar to deadlifting) and the other being to help get your shoulders back into position if them come out of place during your lift.
    Last edited by Leeman; 11-14-2012 at 05:04 AM.
    YOU CANT BUY STRENGTH

  4. #3
    I Decide My Limitations Leeman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    269
    next saturday if all goes as planned I will attempt 905lbs for reps on deadlifts (using straps to hold onto the bar, touch and go reps)

    heres a video of last workout

    Video
    YOU CANT BUY STRENGTH

  5. #4
    I Decide My Limitations Leeman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    269
    so bad news, pulled/tore my lat warming up on deadlifts on Saturday when I had planned to try for 905 for reps

    the back workout I did just didn't let my lats recover enough, I could feel my shoulders coming forwards while warming up and on 805lbs shortly after it left the floor my shoulders came forwards and just kinda overstretched/tore my lat

    theres no bruising, no swelling that I notice (all though there could be some) and generally its not very painful unless I would try and do lat work or something.

    Im gonna look at this as a forced deload, a chance to get back into squatting, and gonna try and learn my lesson about not getting enough recovery between workouts on back/leg stuff.


    after deadlifts I did some light squats with 135lbs just trying to get to depth and stretch out. im SUPER inflexible so im gonna work back into squatting very slowly and focus on getting my form right and to proper depth for a long time before I get heavy


    did biceps after squats

    dumbbell curl
    20x10
    40x10
    60x10
    80x12

    barbell preacher curl
    95lbs x 3 or 4 sets of 10-20

    single arm cable curl
    4 sets of 10-20

    cable rope reverse curl
    4 sets to failure at 10-20 reps

    incline dumbbell curl
    40lbs x 4 sets to failure
    Last edited by Leeman; 11-19-2012 at 11:30 AM.
    YOU CANT BUY STRENGTH

  6. #5
    Moderator Brian Hopper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Lakeland, Florida
    Posts
    12,763
    Love the title, lol! Looking forward to following your progress. Where in Florida did you live before moving?
    My Training Log
    My YouTube page
    Training by Tone Barbaccio
    New Dimensions Wellness & Education

    *************************
    Best geared meet @ 242
    1030SQ, 640BP, 685DL and 2355 total
    Best raw meet w/sleeves @ 242
    665SQ, 440BP, 727DL and 1815 total
    Best raw meet w/sleeves @ 275
    700SQ, 452BP, 722DL and 1874 total

    *************************
    Sponsored By:

    10/20/Life

    AtLarge Nutrition Supplements
    Vanilla Gorilla

  7. #6
    I Decide My Limitations Leeman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    269
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Hopper View Post
    Love the title, lol! Looking forward to following your progress. Where in Florida did you live before moving?
    a little place called spring hill, close to tampa. the place didn't have a ton to offer in terms of things to do or opportunities in general so I figured I should just go ahead and get out of there and experience the world a little more, and maybe invest a little in my future (which will hopefully involve bodybuilding/powerlifting)

    right now my progress will kind of suck, because Im going light on basically everything. but hopefully il build back up higher than ever in everything in the next few months while maybe even getting leaner and definitely bigger.
    Last edited by Leeman; 11-20-2012 at 12:40 AM.
    YOU CANT BUY STRENGTH

  8. #7
    Powerlifter/Strongman J L S's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    1,390
    I sense this journal will pick up momentum very quickly with weights being used and followers! welcome to the board! You're a god damn monster.
    Check out my training:
    http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/sho...?144135-My-Log

    My smolov blog '12 : start 475 - finish: 520
    http://jtrain-ing.blogspot.co.uk/

  9. #8
    Train Hardcore!!! muscle_g's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    South Carolina
    Posts
    1,652
    How's your weekly routine broke down? As in what days do you train the lifts and body parts on and all?
    Train Hardcore

    Best Lifts(SQ/BP/DL)
    625/450/500 multi-ply
    520/405/500 single-ply
    405/315/475 raw

    Training log
    http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/thr...72#post2635572

  10. #9
    I Decide My Limitations Leeman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    269
    Quote Originally Posted by muscle_g View Post
    How's your weekly routine broke down? As in what days do you train the lifts and body parts on and all?
    I don't have a set schedule for anything, but lately ive been doing my leg work on Saturday.

    ive always done all my own training etc, never had a coach or really even anyone who id consider a mentor of any sort, so ive never established much of anything in stone other than general principals that I tend to follow even when it looks like my training makes no sense at all.

    general I
    train as often as my recovery seems to allow (now i try and keep injuries/aches and pains in mind)
    peak my lifts, always building up up up after starting light the first workout
    lots of assistance work (or at least in the past)
    if im not injured or beat down I train a lot of volume, a lot of exercises, and for a long time


    my problem is my training works, but it beats the shit out of me and I cant do it for too long without getting hurt from the combination of gaining strength while weakening my joints/tendons/not fully recovering my muscles

    im learning powerlifting is more about not getting hurt than it is being able to make gains, getting stronger is easy as hell.. its not tearing your body apart under the heavier weights that's the real task.



    Quote Originally Posted by J L S View Post
    I sense this journal will pick up momentum very quickly with weights being used and followers! welcome to the board! You're a god damn monster.
    thanks man
    YOU CANT BUY STRENGTH

  11. #10
    I Decide My Limitations Leeman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    269
    rebahing a pec pull, took 2+ weeks off any chest work so im coming back light, with a close grip, focusing on getting my bench up instead of bodybuilding etc

    close grip bench, light touch and go (usually I let the bar sink in and pause and then press)
    135x10
    185x10
    225x10
    275x10
    315x10 had more for sure, but I noticed I was favoring the arm that didn't have the pec problem, and in my left pec even tho I felt no pain I could tell it was freshly healed and could give again.. not ready for insane training yet

    dumbbell shoulder press at a high incline
    40x10
    75x10
    100x10
    125x10
    140x12 nice

    lots of tricep and bicep work, not much worth talking about.. lots of exercises and angles but for triceps it was all isolation stuff.

    heaviest I went on biceps was 75lb dumbbell curls and 155lb barbell curls
    YOU CANT BUY STRENGTH

  12. #11
    Train Hardcore!!! muscle_g's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    South Carolina
    Posts
    1,652
    Thanks for explaining your training
    Train Hardcore

    Best Lifts(SQ/BP/DL)
    625/450/500 multi-ply
    520/405/500 single-ply
    405/315/475 raw

    Training log
    http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/thr...72#post2635572

  13. #12
    I Decide My Limitations Leeman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    269
    Quote Originally Posted by muscle_g View Post
    Thanks for explaining your training
    no problem, all though now obviously my training wont represent what got me to this point

    I believe aside from genetics and bulking (I bulked from 200lbs to about 400lbs going from 15 to 19 years old) was the fact that I did TONS of volume and TONS of frequency
    (which of course led to injuries and aches and pains long with insane natural gains)

    I would do stuff like bench 5 days a week, train legs multiple days in a row sometimes weeks in a row and then take time off to "supercompensate" from the beat down.

    I used to look at good training as beating my self down as hard as possible, with super high volume, really heavy weights, and very high frequency... followed by taking a few days off to fully recover from all the stress on my body.

    I found that training that way made my body used to doing that kind of work load and volume etc, and it drastically sped up my recovery over a person who did maybe 1 workout a week per body part. so I basically conditioned my self to be able to handle more weight, more volume, and more frequency than a normal weight lifter, while recovering faster between those workouts than a normal weight lifter... the result was I gained much faster.

    of course later on I learned that Olympic lifters conditioned them self in a similar way, and then it all made sense to me.

    after years of reading/training/trial and error (I used to be a incredible forum geek, reading thousands of hours worth of articles and posting like probably 30,000 times on various forums) I found that a lot of the methods that I found to work on my own were the same methods that a lot of very successful programs shared, but it seemed like because I found them on my own that I had only taken the good parts of multiple different styles of training and combined them together to make something that worked extremely well for me.

    I basically did a mix of-

    DC training, in that id focus on improving a heavy set for my compounds

    various forms of peaking and progressive overload using a wide range of different sets/reps/ideas

    sort of a form of Olympic lifting conditioning to improve my work capacity and recovery

    and a lot of my training agreed with the principals of westside, but it wasn't structured like westside because I didn't have max effort or speed work and didn't have a weekly schedule... but it seems like the more I read about westside training the more I found that those guys seem to do a little of everything



    for the life of me I can never explain my training to people because I have found so many different things to work and be beneficial.. I think training is more of a mind set where you just kind of know what to do based off how you feel and what you see going on in your workouts, because that's how Ive always done it.
    YOU CANT BUY STRENGTH

  14. #13
    Powerlifter/Strongman J L S's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    1,390
    that explanation is actually pretty good haha, I understand it. Basically you train very very hard, and get very very good results.
    Check out my training:
    http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/sho...?144135-My-Log

    My smolov blog '12 : start 475 - finish: 520
    http://jtrain-ing.blogspot.co.uk/

  15. #14
    Senior Member Judas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Out there... like ****in' Pluto man...
    Posts
    564
    I have always found that more is more, and that even more than more is better yet... as long as you're recovering from it. I've dispelled soooo many training myths in my 8 1/2 years its laughable.

    Someone made up a name for instinctual training (what you and i do) on some other forum years ago... it was called 'cybernetic periodization'... or 'hell if i know' training. Sounds about perfect.

    You're basically training kind ov like a Bulgarian weightlifter, in terms ov just doing as much max work as possible and trying not to break. Abadjiev forced 10000 lifters through his meat grinder, and broke 9985 ov them irreparably, but the 15 that lived were all world champions or world record holders. Heh... its all about trying to be one ov the 15... haha

    Fucking ridiculous pulls in that video, by the way...

  16. #15
    I Decide My Limitations Leeman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    269
    pause squats, working on form trying to get the depth right, took me a while but I was getting below parallel (or at least I was told I was and it seemed like it)
    135x3 sets of 5-10
    225x3 sets of 5+ reps
    315x2 sets of 5+
    405x5
    405x10, had at least 20 reps with this pausing them at the bottom for a few seconds each it seemed

    high bar goodmornings with deadlift stance
    135x10
    225x10
    315x10

    back extensions
    45lbs x 2x failure

    cable rows, light
    3 sets of 15-20 reps


    all light stuff, calling it a deload and getting back into squatting/lat training. didn't want to overdo it on my hamstring or quad work either
    Last edited by Leeman; 11-24-2012 at 08:13 PM.
    YOU CANT BUY STRENGTH

  17. #16
    Wannabebig Member
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    68
    Hahaha I'll definitely follow this one. I kind of train the same way you do. I am not deadlifting 800 pounds though.

  18. #17
    I Decide My Limitations Leeman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    269
    monday i did

    close grip bench
    135x10
    225x10
    275x10
    350x10

    dumbbell shoulder press
    40'sx20
    70'sx12
    100'sx12
    125'sx20

    lots of tricep extension stuff for a pump

    side laterals
    45'sx20
    70'sx10
    100'sx9


    yesterday i did

    barbell cheatcurls
    135x10
    185x8
    225x13

    incline dumbbell curls
    40'sx10
    70'sx10

    other bicep pump stuff light
    YOU CANT BUY STRENGTH

  19. #18
    I Decide My Limitations Leeman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    269
    Video
    YOU CANT BUY STRENGTH

  20. #19
    I Decide My Limitations Leeman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    269
    so i finally got a better feeling squat form where i can hit depth easily and get some rebound out of the hole instead of pause squating with a wide stance

    close stance highbar squats, first time really ever trying these
    135x5
    225x5
    315x5
    405x5
    495x1

    knee wraps on (3rd time using knee wraps in my life probably, didnt know what to expect)
    585x3

    felt a bit weird, not used to high bar or knee wraps at all, but il train this new form hard and get used to it and hopefully do well with it!!

    deadlifts
    135x1
    225x1
    315x1
    405x1
    495x1
    585x1

    no lat problems, good stuff. pulls were slow and felt like they were ALL hams and glutes, quads were kinda dead from doing deep squats for the first time in years.

    leg curls
    5 sets to failure

    cable rows with a rope, standing
    stack x 4 sets to failure

    bicep stuff, went up to 85's x 11 curls swinging and did some other stuff



    didnt do much at all today in terms of volume, but i was content just being able to pull something moderately heavy without any pain and having found my new squat position and gotten some weight on my back

    EDIT:

    the knee wraps make me timid on squats, i didnt go down fast with the wraps and so im told I didnt get much help from them, they were also wrapped (moderately) which felt tight as FUCK but apparently that was nothing
    Last edited by Leeman; 12-02-2012 at 12:46 PM.
    YOU CANT BUY STRENGTH

  21. #20
    I Decide My Limitations Leeman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    269
    close grip bench pausing the last few reps of the heavy sets
    warm up
    375x13, might have been 14, either way ass came up on the last rep about 1/2" but i had another rep in me

    405x8, same thing, ass came up like 1/2" but mighta had another rep

    cable flys
    4 sets

    lots of light tricep cable stuff

    some bicep stuff
    YOU CANT BUY STRENGTH

  22. #21
    I Decide My Limitations Leeman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    269
    Video


    special thanks to eric for putting my lifting in there too
    YOU CANT BUY STRENGTH

  23. #22
    I Decide My Limitations Leeman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    269
    tried squating yesterday, quads cramped, so just did pulls first

    warm up
    765x8 mighta had more but plates were sliding and so were straps lol

    Video


    leg curls
    4-5 sets to failure

    light back work
    YOU CANT BUY STRENGTH

  24. #23
    Moderator Brian Hopper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Lakeland, Florida
    Posts
    12,763
    That's insane bro! Is that a PR?
    My Training Log
    My YouTube page
    Training by Tone Barbaccio
    New Dimensions Wellness & Education

    *************************
    Best geared meet @ 242
    1030SQ, 640BP, 685DL and 2355 total
    Best raw meet w/sleeves @ 242
    665SQ, 440BP, 727DL and 1815 total
    Best raw meet w/sleeves @ 275
    700SQ, 452BP, 722DL and 1874 total

    *************************
    Sponsored By:

    10/20/Life

    AtLarge Nutrition Supplements
    Vanilla Gorilla

  25. #24
    I Decide My Limitations Leeman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    269
    yeah my best was 6 before

    but when I did my best i was taking other oral sups that seem to give me a HUGE boost in strength. so im guessing il be stronger than ever soon enough.

    its all about not getting hurt, id deadlift 1000lbs for reps if my body held together long enough
    YOU CANT BUY STRENGTH

  26. #25
    I Decide My Limitations Leeman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    269
    couple days ago i did

    close grip bench
    135x10
    225x10
    315x6
    365x4
    405x4
    435x6 paused the 6th rep probably had 7
    465x1 paused fast

    cable flys
    4 sets

    pushdowns
    4-5 sets

    single arm reverse grip pushdown
    4 sets

    cable upright row
    3-4 sets
    YOU CANT BUY STRENGTH

Similar Threads

  1. How long from 850-900 to 1000lbs squat?
    By martin in forum Powerlifting and Strength Training
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 07-31-2009, 02:07 PM
  2. This is what it takes....
    By Death in forum Member Online Journals
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 10-03-2008, 08:07 AM
  3. Do I have what it takes?
    By Dave30904 in forum Members' Pics and Videos
    Replies: 31
    Last Post: 07-31-2006, 05:28 PM
  4. Doing what it takes
    By kpd in forum Member Online Journals
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 01-27-2005, 12:29 PM
  5. green tea- who takes it?
    By waynis in forum Diet and Nutrition
    Replies: 26
    Last Post: 09-20-2004, 01:44 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •