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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Resistance Training vs Weights?

    Hey all,

    I've bought resistance bands, which are a great workout, but I'm a little confused as to what kind of a routine I should be doing.

    The two I've been told to do (by two people on each side) are as follows:

    As much as you can for 4 minutes and stop.

    vs.

    6-12 Reps max. (with suitable weight)

    My suspicions are that the first is (RESISTANCE) fat burning and the second is muscle building (WEIGHTS) - but I just want muscle building.

    Can anyone share light on this? Maybe it was just poorly explained/I had something in my ear(s)
    Cheers
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    is this on top of your current routine or is this your routine?
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    I've yet to start - it will be my routine

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    I'm not buying anything else, simply because I don't have the money. I bought these because I heard that you can build muscle with these better, as your muscles have to work on stabilising the tension all through the lift/fly whatever you're doing, on top of the normal rep. And the countless 5 star reviews.

    ANYWAY, I wanted to know which of these do what, rather than how to build muscle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saarik View Post

    As much as you can for 4 minutes and stop.

    vs.

    6-12 Reps max. (with suitable weight)

    My suspicions are that the first is (RESISTANCE) fat burning and the second is muscle building (WEIGHTS) - but I just want muscle building.
    Ok..simply put: The only reason why the whole 4 min resistance band thing might burn fat is because you are burning more calories. It really isn't anything special. With weights you will definitely build muscle if done right, and depending on your DIET, you might burn fat also. So yeah, just do the weights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saarik View Post
    I just want muscle building.
    Quote Originally Posted by Saarik View Post
    ANYWAY, I wanted to know which of these do what, rather than how to build muscle.
    I guess I got confused when your first post said you wanted to build muscle, my mistake. Also, sorry, I didn't realize that these bands came with a 5 Star rating, they must be really good. I guess maybe you should mix the types of training so that you can build muscle and lose fat at the same time, if that's your goal (still not sure what your goals are). Good luck to you.
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    Thanks Whoopipally!

    Haha, sorry to confuse you Off Road, but your comment didn't exactly answer my question. 'I just want muscle building' was background on my preference, but what I wanted to know was the difference between the effects of the two styles of exercise, but not equipment. I bought a Bodylastics set, a load of 5-star reviews on Amazon, I recommend them. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Off Road View Post
    I guess I got confused when your first post said you wanted to build muscle, my mistake. Also, sorry, I didn't realize that these bands came with a 5 Star rating, they must be really good. I guess maybe you should mix the types of training so that you can build muscle and lose fat at the same time, if that's your goal (still not sure what your goals are). Good luck to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saarik View Post
    Hey all,

    I've bought resistance bands, which are a great workout, but I'm a little confused as to what kind of a routine I should be doing.

    The two I've been told to do (by two people on each side) are as follows:

    As much as you can for 4 minutes and stop.

    vs.

    6-12 Reps max. (with suitable weight)

    My suspicions are that the first is (RESISTANCE) fat burning and the second is muscle building (WEIGHTS) - but I just want muscle building.

    Can anyone share light on this? Maybe it was just poorly explained/I had something in my ear(s)
    Cheers
    1. Your title of "resistance training vs weights" is odd.. because using weights IS resistance training, lol.

    2. In general, yea, the 6-12 or whatever would probably fit the "muscle building protocol" but I don't think it really matters. You're not going to build substantial muscle at all with simple resistance bands despite what amazon people rate them. The best you could hope for is a well laid out diet and maybe some fat loss. If thats not your goal, then youre kind of stuck.
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    I actually have a client getting quite strong using bands only at the moment (he's on the road, on set at a movie production a long way away from a gym). However, he's using the full set of bands over at elitefts- using the heavy bands for squats, medium/regular bands for push-ups, etc. The bands you've got up there are a little too light to really give you much, unless you can stack all of them together.

    How much resistance are they capable of generating?

    (ps- I'm not sure you can recommend them before even using them for a routine, let alone getting results)
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    33 levels of resistance from 3 lbs to 96 lbs. I guess it depends on someones definition of "strong".
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    Ditch the bands and find a way to lift weights. Bands are a way to enhance training, but not the prime modality. It's like playing tennis with just the strings and no racquet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex.V View Post
    How much resistance are they capable of generating?

    (ps- I'm not sure you can recommend them before even using them for a routine, let alone getting results)
    The started ones I bought are up to 96 lbs, but they go up to 328 lbs with other packs. I'm recommending them because I know what weights feel like, and these give the same IMMEDIATE effect. But you're right, I havn't been using em long enough for results

    Quote Originally Posted by RichMcGuire View Post
    33 levels of resistance from 3 lbs to 96 lbs. I guess it depends on someones definition of "strong".
    And it seems you started off with more than 96 lbs? It's enough for me atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saarik View Post
    And it seems you started off with more than 96 lbs? It's enough for me atm.
    If they go up to 328 lbs, then you should be fine for a long time.
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    Too many people looking for different options... just lift weights dude...

    Theres a reason people like Arnold, Ferrigno, Coleman use weights...

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    Guys, we had this same conversation with this guy just a while ago about using light dumbbells. He claimed then that he had no money to spend on a gym or a barbell. Same claim he's making here after shelling out ~$70.00 for this band system. He is either trolling us or he refuses to listen or he just wants us to agree with him (hence my last post). Either way I think we are waisting time trying to help, just agree with him and move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Off Road View Post
    just agree with him and move on.
    I agree with him, and I just moved on.
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