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    Gettin Lean Goin_Big's Avatar
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    Sumo Deadlifts

    With all the back problems I've been having I'm thinking about trying sumo deadlifts out.

    It seems that I'm able to lift things better this way as I tried it out at work, but I'm wondering, do they stress the lower back as much as conventional dls?

    I just want to do them long enough to get my lower back strength back so I can do conventional deads and squats again, I'm really tired of doing leg press and back extensions........never get a back injury.......never
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    Personally I don't believe they stress the lower back near as much as conventionals. I did some really heavy sumo's yesterday with my leg workout, and I don't feel a thing in my back today.
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    Well don't that just bite the big one.

    Thanks chase, maybe I can just do some really high rep conventionals or something, or maybe I'll just stick with back extensions until I finish getting my lard ass in shape then I can go back to some core strength work.

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    Generaly conventionals will hit your back alot more then sumo's do. If you want to hit your lower back muscles good then try good mornings, there a excellant excercise for working your back.
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    I've actually never done a good morning, I know what they are and how to do them, but how low do you go?
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    i go down till my bakc is parrellel to the floor, if your just starting out then you dont have to go down that low.
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    cool, thanks, I'll try'em friday with some light weight, what's a good starting weight?
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    I just started doing sumo's. If you have shorter limbs, this would be better for you in terms of keeping your form correct during heavy lifts.

    I found that out the hard way when i threw my back out a couple weeks ago.

    If your back is giving u probs, maybe u should consider using the trap bar for deadlifts.
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    I know this has probably been asked but if I want to do sumo dls (I've been having back problems lately) should I do them on back or leg day?

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    imho, do it on back day

    sumo and squats on the same day?

    one exercise will compromise the other for sure

    I can't imagine myself doing any effectively intense deads after I go crazy on squats
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    If you have back problems, stay away from deadlifts until you don't have the problems any more.

    jeez guys come on tuttut
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    actually, I think deads can help your back problems, deads, gms, sldl's, etc. All have helped mine.

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    I kind of agree, a lot of back problems are caused from weak erectors..so it makes sense to strengthen them using these excercises, obviously starting light and getting form down first.

    It all depends on what the back problem is, It`s not good to do deadlifts if you have a serious back problem.

    On that note I was wondering the other day...I have scoleosis of the spine ( curves to one side )..I recently started doing deadlifts, yep i`m in love with them too...but could it be harmful as more weight will be distributed to my left side??? My guess is I`m going to have to skip `em.

    No problems so far though, both sides are equally as sore the day after and seem to recover at the same rate. Anyone care to comment?
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    a weak erector and an injured back are 2 different things
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    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Hellrazor
    [B]I kind of agree, a lot of back problems are caused from weak erectors..so it makes sense to strengthen them using these excercises, obviously starting light and getting form down first.

    It all depends on what the back problem is, It`s not good to do deadlifts if you have a serious back problem.

    Duhhhhh !!! Read it next time qea.
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    The guy didnt actually say he had an injured back....just back problems. Could be anything, as I said its obvious not to do these if you have a real problem.
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    Re: Sumo Deadlifts

    Originally posted by Goin_Big
    With all the back problems I've been having I'm thinking about trying sumo deadlifts out...

    ...never get a back injury.......never
    Sounds like it was/is a back injury. If it IS a back injury, don't deadlift. If it WAS a back injury, it was treated, and your doctor gave you the OK to start deadlifting again, go ahead and do it however you feel comfortable, but be careful.
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    Actually the doctor was a ******* joke like all doctors are, said he saw nothing and gave me some ******* gay ass exercises he said I should do.

    I hate doctors
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    I hate my doctor with a vengeance, he doesnt even know the names of the ******* muscles on the human body and if ever I have an injury or illness, he says " do some light exercise like swimming and take some painkillers "...not hmm....it seems you have `whatever` I think you should see a physio or whatever. AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHH

    How I`d love to take him in the gym and make him do a 300lb squat, let the bar crush him and say " Hey you`ll be ok, just do some light exercise and take painkillers". lol
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    Yea, well the doc looked at me kinda funny when I told him how I got hurt and told him I wanted it fixed so I could go do it again, lol.
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