The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness
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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Regular Deads vs. Rack Deads

    Which can you lift more on? With rack deads you move the weight less distance, but by not using your legs as much take momentum out of the movement. I did rack deads for the first time today and couldn't lift as much. I am wondering if I was just having a bad day or if this is the way it is supposed to be.

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    I prefer rack deads as you probably know from my journal or my signature.

    The reason that I prefer rack pulls vs. convetional deads is simply because I do NOT want my legs involved in the lift. I want deads to hammer the sh!t outta my traps and my grip but I want to stress ny lower back if that and mainly my traps.

    I mean it depends conventional deadlifts I dont really think are all that when it comes to bodybuilding. For powerlifting hey I think that theyre great, but for strict bodybuilding purposes I think you should stick with pulling off the rack rather than the floor.

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    Not really following that logic Monstar. It sounds like what you're doing resembles a SLDL, which does work yours hams to a significant degree.

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    The vast majority of trainees can rack pull much more than they can pull from the floor.

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    I think MonStar is saying that by removing the first half of the lift you take out the part where you legs are used the most. However, I find that lower back gets a much better range of motion with full deadlifts than rack deads. I also find that my legs don't get hit any harder with a full deadlift than a rack deadlift, but that could just be how I do them...
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    never tried them, but that would make sense from what chris is saying. at least for me the hardest part of the dead is getting it off the floor.


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    Haven't done them in a while, but I think my strength is better off the floor these days.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
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    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
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    Yeah I would recommend rack pulls to anyone / everyone whos doing them strictly for bodybuilding purposes. You can pull a helluva lot more weight!!

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    Well, I do find that getting off the floor can be very difficult and often limits my weight significantly. I find to get the most range of motion for my lower back with the most amount of weight I start with the bar in the rack, pick up the bar, take a step back, and pump out a few reps. The only difference between this and a regular powerlifting deadlift is that I'm doing the negative first which seems to mentually prepare me for the positive part because I still bring the weight to the floor and I can do significantly more weight this way than starting from the floor.
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