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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Incline bench vs Decline bench

    Which do you prefer and why? Which one would you add on to a chest workout that already included db flat press and dips.
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    I would not do more than 2 pressing moves in a chest workout. I would prefer to do inclines over declines.

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    I do, bb bench press, incline db press, and dips.
    "It is often said, mainly by the "no-contests", that although there is no positive evidence for the existence of God, nor is there evidence against his existence. So it is best to keep an open mind and be agnostic. At first sight that seems an unassailable position, at least in the weak sense of Pascal's wager. But on second thought it seems a cop-out, because the same could be said of Father Christmas and tooth fairies. There may be fairies at the bottom of the garden. There is no evidence for it, but you can't prove that there aren't any, so shouldn't we be agnostic with respect to fairies?"

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    "Out of all of the sects in the world, we notice an uncanny coincidence: the overwhelming majority just happen to choose the one that their parents belong to. Not the sect that has the best evidence in its favour, the best miracles, the best moral code, the best cathedral, the best stained glass, the best music: when it comes to choosing from the smorgasbord of available religions, their potential virtues seem to count for nothing, compared to the matter of heredity. This is an unmistakable fact; nobody could seriously deny it. Yet people with full knowledge of the arbitrary nature of this heredity, somehow manage to go on believing in their religion, often with such fanaticism that they are prepared to murder people who follow a different one."


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    I'll be doing incline DB, and flat DB starting next week... I have a rather difficult program coming up

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    I like inclines. I guess it's a leverage factor?
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    "Test all things; hold fast what is good.": 1 Thessalonians 5:21

    "I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do--this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
    So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God's law; but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God--through Jesus Christ our Lord!"
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    Incline supposedly hits the upper region of the chest, and decline supposedly hits the lower region of the chest.

    Ofcourse, many denies this, says that you cant hit different areas of a muscle. You just have to decide for yourself what you belive.

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    i just do flat
    my exprience - joined gym 10 years ago, 6 1/2 years hard weight training exprience.

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    If you do dips, I'd add inclines if you want to add something. Incline works the clavicular a lot more rather than the pectoral and I feel that flat bench, decline bench and dips work the pectorals a lot.
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    Inclines. What's up with your leg press max being only 5lbs and 2 reps more than your squat? That's truly bizarre.

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    Re: Incline bench vs Decline bench

    Originally posted by dkliewer
    Which do you prefer and why? Which one would you add on to a chest workout that already included db flat press and dips.
    Nice avatar man thats hot, I like it.

    Anyway I would prefer declines by a long shot. Well first of all I dont think that another press is necessary in a routine of flat press and dips. My chest routine is flat presses, dips, and flyes. Works really well at hitting my pecs hard.

    But declines if anything they hit your pecs rather than your front delts (inclines).

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    I like to do both because incline will work my upper pec muscle and decline will work my lower pec muscle. Also, I like to throw some regular flat bench in there to work my middle pec muscle. I'll follow this up with some flyes to work my outer pec muscles and then I'll do some cable crossovers and completely cross to work my inner pec muscles.
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    Originally posted by Goin_Big
    I like to do both because incline will work my upper pec muscle and decline will work my lower pec muscle. Also, I like to throw some regular flat bench in there to work my middle pec muscle. I'll follow this up with some flyes to work my outer pec muscles and then I'll do some cable crossovers and completely cross to work my inner pec muscles.
    tuttuttuttut I hope youre not serious.

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    flat barbell bench
    incline db press
    wide chest (Hammer Strength Machine)
    Machine Flye's
    switch off flat BB and Incline db's every week
    Don't just call me pessimist. Try and read between the lines. I can't imagine why you wouldn't Welcome any change, my friend. I wanna see it all come down. suck it down. flush it down.

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    but i love doing inlcine DB's the most because for me personally i can pound out the most weight.
    Don't just call me pessimist. Try and read between the lines. I can't imagine why you wouldn't Welcome any change, my friend. I wanna see it all come down. suck it down. flush it down.

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    Originally posted by MonStar


    tuttuttuttut I hope youre not serious.

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    Originally posted by MarshallPenn
    Inclines. What's up with your leg press max being only 5lbs and 2 reps more than your squat? That's truly bizarre.
    It's those damn 1/8 squats in the smith machine.


    I would probably stick with 2 presses in a chest workout unless you really like 3 in which case I would do only 1-2 work sets of each and call it a day.
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    Goin_Big - whats up with your chest workout man? No pushups or dips? This is terrible...
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    incline bench is far superior for chest development. I would however, include both of them in your program though. bodyweight dips at the end r the bomb too

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    ok, my serious answer to this thread. I wouldnt' do either of'em and if I were going to do one it would be decline db presses because they work the pecs extremely well.

    I personally prefer flat bench, but sometimes I will superset incline to work my front delts.
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    It's those damn 1/8 squats in the smith machine.
    Yeah, I do Squats in the smith machine because I don't have a squat rack to work with. These are lifts are not actually my maxes right. They are just what I lifted the week before I wrote that signature. And I do go parallel on my squats.

    I was thinking about changing my routine, but I'll probably leave it the same. : Flat db bench 3 sets, Decline bench 3 sets, and weighted dips for 3 sets.

    Has anybody tried Incline Flys before? I did them the other day and my chest was sore for the first time in awhile. I probably won't do them again anyway.
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    This coming Sunday, I'm going to go all out and see what I can actually do on leg press for six reps.
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    Bench - 325
    Deadlift - 550
    Total - 1380@175

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