The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness
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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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  1. #1
    Senior Member gaz90's Avatar
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    another Deadlift thread :P

    i have competed twice this year, my lifts (Raw) have gone up quite alot, but something is bugging me, my squat has increased more than my deadlift...my first ever meet was back in march, i sumo pulled 205k/450lb and squatted 160k/350lb. my last meet 3weeks ago i sumo pulled 225k/495lb and squatted 192.5k/425lb and i definitely had a 200k/440lb squat in me that day.
    i use the same stance for my squat and deadlift. im always slow of the floor despite using speed pulls. i can credit my squat numbers to box squatting and GMs for sure. i feel i made the stupid assumption that squatting will take care of my deadlift, although my deadlift has increased, im left feeling it could be much better had i focused on it more.

    is this common or does it even matter?! any helpful advice appreciated!!
    last meet, GPC, Irish Open: 03/11/2012
    @ 82.5kg/ 181 junior raw
    S: 192.5kg/424
    B: 130 kg/286
    D: 225kg/495
    best gym lifts:
    S: 182.5kg/400
    B: 135 kg/300
    D: 220 kg/485

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    Its hard to comment without a video but if you pull with the same stance as you squat you might not be wide enough to take advantage of the reduced range of motion for sumo, and might just be getting some of the loss of strength that comes with that stance. There is absolutely a trade off between range of motion and strength using the sumo stance, I think you have to find a sweet spot.

    That being said, your deadlift seems ok relative to your squat, there are so many factors its so hard to tell if something "should" be higher than it is, so I never think like that anymore. How are you training deadlifts right now?
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    If you're slow off the floor try adding in some deficit deads.
    36 yr old novice PL

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    I would just be happy to be hitting prs on both. Don't over analyze things. It is most likely a conditioning thing. You are fresh In a meet when you squat and tired when you pull. Keep it simple and have fun.
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    Senior Member gaz90's Avatar
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    scott, your right i guess i am over thinking it!and yea i was beat when it came to pull, even in the warm up everything felt heavy

    bruiser, i can honestly say ive never tried them, so yea i will give them a try and see what happens

    thanks for the words of advice everyone
    last meet, GPC, Irish Open: 03/11/2012
    @ 82.5kg/ 181 junior raw
    S: 192.5kg/424
    B: 130 kg/286
    D: 225kg/495
    best gym lifts:
    S: 182.5kg/400
    B: 135 kg/300
    D: 220 kg/485

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