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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Low Bodyfat - Death? How and How Low?

    I've heard that a 2% bodyfat percentage will ensure certain death. Why is that? What reaction occurrs to cause fatality when bodyfat is too low?

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    It has something to do with the protection or needs of your organs I believe

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    well your organs are cushioned by bodyfat....also it keeps you warm and it's there as a source of energy.....so yes...you can die if your bf gets too low. I know there's more science to it then that, but i don't have the info off-hand. i'm sure soemone else does tho.


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    I actually work for a restaurant management corp. based in ATL and am frequently relocated throughout the south. I used to manage at the Tavern At Phipps in Phipps Plaza, and also Joey D's Oakroom near Perimeter Mall. Currently I'm in Columbia, SC (and wishing to return to ATL). I assume you are from ATL also...?

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    Your bf being to low can be unhealthy for you. However, it is quite hard to get it any lower than just above 3%. Remember that your brain makes up about 2.5-3% of your bf to begin with. So, you can only get SO low before you can seriously endanger your health. Take it from someone who's been down that road.

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    Certain vitamins etc needed for production of hormones in your body are stored in your fat. If your fat falls too low, you would die but you could not intentionally get your body fat that low. Effectively you would have no subcutaneous fat that you could see long before you would die of having too low a body fat and your body would go catabolic before it would allow you to use up the last of your fat supplies.

    Ever seen pictures of starving people in 3rd world countries? Assume they are 3-4% bodyfat.
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    Originally posted by Spiderman
    Your bf being to low can be unhealthy for you. However, it is quite hard to get it any lower than just above 3%. Remember that your brain makes up about 2.5-3% of your bf to begin with. So, you can only get SO low before you can seriously endanger your health. Take it from someone who's been down that road.
    your heart, lungs, liver, kidney have fat in there structure as well..

    calipers can't measure this fat.

    also if you bloated your fat % will decrease. if you get ripped your BF% will increase even though you look leaner.
    my exprience - joined gym 10 years ago, 6 1/2 years hard weight training exprience.

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    Originally posted by capinatl
    I actually work for a restaurant management corp. based in ATL and am frequently relocated throughout the south. I used to manage at the Tavern At Phipps in Phipps Plaza, and also Joey D's Oakroom near Perimeter Mall. Currently I'm in Columbia, SC (and wishing to return to ATL). I assume you are from ATL also...?
    cool....it's not the buckhead group is it? anyways..yeah i'm in Atl too....well, cobb county right on the perimeter.
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    Originally posted by body

    also if you bloated your fat % will decrease. if you get ripped your BF% will increase even though you look leaner.
    Hmmmm...interesting statement there...I'm looking very lean right now, and I have half the amount of bodyfat I had when I started dieting...
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    I ran track in college, they gave us a 5 pinch caliper test and my coach (who was 4th in D1 NCAAs in the 400 hurdles a few years earlier) was between 2.8-3.5 can't remember the exact number anyway, once they figured it out the weight trainers had an ambulance there within 10 minutes to take him away.
    He never had any health problems that i knew about.
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    Originally posted by capinatl
    I actually work for a restaurant management corp. based in ATL and am frequently relocated throughout the south. I used to manage at the Tavern At Phipps in Phipps Plaza, and also Joey D's Oakroom near Perimeter Mall. Currently I'm in Columbia, SC (and wishing to return to ATL). I assume you are from ATL also...?
    Oh hell! I love the Tavern. Phipps Plaza has mega tail factor.
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    Originally posted by Spiderman
    Your bf being to low can be unhealthy for you. However, it is quite hard to get it any lower than just above 3%. Remember that your brain makes up about 2.5-3% of your bf to begin with. So, you can only get SO low before you can seriously endanger your health. Take it from someone who's been down that road.
    Actually, the brain is less than one percent of your bodies total fat. But a good argument for why you can't get below 1%.

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    Originally posted by BigChaseyChase


    Hmmmm...interesting statement there...I'm looking very lean right now, and I have half the amount of bodyfat I had when I started dieting...

    notice the symbol '%' rather than total fat.

    the total fat mass will stay the same. just the ratio will alter.
    my exprience - joined gym 10 years ago, 6 1/2 years hard weight training exprience.

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    Originally posted by body



    notice the symbol '%' rather than total fat.

    the total fat mass will stay the same. just the ratio will alter.
    that just makes abosulutely no sense.

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    no! brain tissue isn't lost when u lose fat! when u have low cholesterol, ur organs are not smaller, nor when u have tons of cholesterol, ur organs bigger! they both are made of the same macro, but they are not the same.

    for the bf thing, <7% is gradual deterioration of body mass (starvation). i never heard of instant death from low bf
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    yikes! Bad news for me. I havn't been over 8% since early childhood. Now at 5-6% gotta eat!

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    wtf RG570. u were never over 8%? how much do u weigh, i seriously doubt that is possible unless u have a thyroid condition. u must've measured incorrectly.
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    I love all this talk about bodyfat because it's so way off base that it's funny. First of all anyone with these low sub 10% figures is out to lunch. Without getting into any real detail bodyfat refers to organ fat, subcutaneous fat and intramuscular fat. The only people in the world with really low BODYFAT are US Rangers and perhaps other branches of the special forces, people on their deathbeds and corpses. Even professional bodybuilders don't have these insanely low percentages everyone says because the more muscle you get the more body fat you get. If your muscles lack intramuscular fat they are "flat" and don't have the "full" look. People saying they are at something like 5% bodyfat are imbeciles. If you're at that level of bodyfat you're close to death and could begin seeing organ failure. Calipers "measure" (I'll use the term loosely because calipers are so grossly inaccurate they aren't even worth using) subcutaneous fat which is based largely on genetics and ethnicity as well as eating habits. All you should really care about is how you look in the mirror. To answer the original question from capinatl, if you're at 2% bodyfat you're a corpse that is rotting away. You want to see someone with bodyfat that low? I'll direct you to a cemetary.

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    The full look of pro bbs is not achieved by intramuscular fat. That is one ignorant statement.
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    Good job at proving me wrong BigChaseyChase you had a very convincing argument, the only thing ignorant around here is you for replying like that. I guarantee you that if the pros had these 4-5% bodyfats they claimed (if we looked past the fact they'd be dead) they would lack "fullness" to their muscles. The fat content of muscle has much to do with its size and water retention and thus it's fullness. You didn't provide any counter claim as to what gave the pros their look, but believe me I'm dying to hear it. Don't try and miscontrue what I'm saying either by interpretting what I said to mean that the pros size comes from fat, because I'm not an idiot and I know they have plenty of muscle. You're free to believe whatever you like, but don't be a jackass and tell me I'm wrong without providing any explanation.

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    damn attitude.....chill out man. if you wanna be smarter then everybody and point someting out, try not to be so abrasive. people listen better when your not grating on their nerves.
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    I've heard that a 2% bodyfat percentage will ensure certain death. Why is that? What reaction occurrs to cause fatality when bodyfat is too low?

    Thanks.


    The only Guy who I've heard of who could have died from something weird like that was bruce lee, he died in his sleep due to some sort of random brain swelling but alot of people say his bodyfat was low, like in the 2% range.


    I dont really think low bodyfat killed him ubt you never know really. Its just speculation.

    The question is would your body even let you get down to 2% bodydat?

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    wtf RG570. u were never over 8%? how much do u weigh, i seriously doubt that is possible unless u have a thyroid condition. u must've measured incorrectly.
    You educate yourself. Genetics. My Uncle and my Mom both are below 6% bodyfat and always have been every day of their life.

    Genes plays a big rule you know.

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    how did your mom give birth to you if she's never been below 6% bodyfat? I'm surprised she even started menstruating.
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    used must have been a very small baby. as your mum does not eat enough.
    my exprience - joined gym 10 years ago, 6 1/2 years hard weight training exprience.

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