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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Bro, I don't think you need the added weight for pull-ups... (RANT THREAD!)

    Fair warning: This is a somewhat lengthy post!

    Lol at this stupid kid at my college gym. He's attempting to do weighted pull-ups with a 45 pound plate. (His previous set looked even worse and he had a 45 AND a 25 straped-on. Facepalm.) As you can see in the vid, he cranks out ten "reps" that are maybe a quarter range-of-motion at best by the end of the set. Looks more like he's having a seizure than doing pull-ups. (Sorry the vid is rotated!)



    The best part is how he throws his chin up after every rep, as if it was actually above the bar. Throwing your head back to get your chin a few inches higher and place it above the bar is cheating, anyway. I've never understood the need for some people to do that. It's irrational and isn't actually increasing your ROM or the effectiveness of the exercise. If your goal is for your chin to travel higher than the bar, keep your head fixed and keep pulling!

    I don't offer unsolicited advice at the gym, but someone needs to tell this guy he'd be far better off just doing body weight pull-ups, or maybe even assisted. Not that he'd listen, though... This same dude tries to do waaay too much weight on all his other lifts, too, of course with crappy form and nowhere near full ROM. And surprise surprise, I've been seeing this kid workout regularly for at least a year, but if you saw him on the street, you'd think he'd never once stepped foot in a weight room.

    Why do people lift like this??? It's an epidemic that can be witnessed in gyms everywhere. People, if you're doing smith machine squats with 5 plates on each side and a 6-inch ROM, you're wasting your time and probably doing your body more harm than good. If people are going to invest time and energy into working-out, why not do it the right way? It doesn't take a whole lot of research to figure out that you should be using a weight you can control with good form and full ROM... hell, that's just common sense. And then of course there's the guy doing dumbbell curls that sways his entire torso back and forth while his elbows flail all over the place. Who are you trying to impress, exactly, and what are you trying to accomplish? You look like an idiot and are a weakling because you're ignorant to the basics of strength training. But I guess you've succeeded in convincing yourself you are strong and that your set of "curls" was effective.

    And what's with people inventing weird, pointless exercises involving Swiss balls, BOSU balls, medicine balls, resistance bands, or any combination thereof? Sure, these things have their uses, but don't structure your entire workout around them. What's wrong with good old fashioned barbells and dumbbells??? Oh yeah, some fitness marketing hype bullshit led them to believe that they are, in fact, "old fashioned." As if that's a bad thing? As James Bond said in Skyfall, "sometimes, the old ways are best." It's usually women I see doing all sorts of complicated and silly looking maneuvers involving exercise balls and resistance bands. A lot of them, sadly, have been duped into believing that traditional compound exercises involving barbells and dumbbells are "manly" and will cause them to "bulk-up". Or maybe they are just afraid if doing these exercises, I don't know. To any female reading this, you should take a look at ChickenTuna's website and blog. She is 44 and has an amazing body, and according to her workout routine posted on her site, she does exercises such as squats, deadlifts, and lunges for lower body, and bench press, dips, and pull-ups for upper body. Sounds an awful lot like some of the main lifts that my workouts are structured around! Solid, tried-and-true compound lifts. Old-fashioned and work great for men and women alike.

    I could go on and on, but I'll stop now, haha. Feel free to contribute to this thread with your own exercise/gym related rants, musings, pet peeves, etc. We've all seen idiots in the gym and usually just ignore them and go quietly about our business while we snicker inside, but every once and a while it's fun to vent to like-minded people. If you read this entire post, thanks. If not, I don't blame you!

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    But how else would he be able to brag to all his buds on BBdotcom about his awesome 70lb wide-grip pull-ups... for REPS...???

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    Looks like just your average ego lifter to me. Why give any advice at all? Just go about your workout and ignore it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FearFactory View Post
    Looks like just your average ego lifter to me. Why give any advice at all? Just go about your workout and ignore it.
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    Why do you care so much about what he is doing?

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    I think it is ok to care about how others train.

    I agree the kid obviously doesn't know any better and probably thinks he is getting stronger by adding more and more weight even though his form is suffering.

    If you want to help, ask him why he does them that way. Listen to what he says. Then say, that is interesting, I had always heard that a full ROM and controlled movement were better for muscular development. Don't say more. Don't say it in a condescending tone. Just make it conversational. You have now planted the seed in his head. He may even ask you for more advice.


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    Get bigger and stronger than him and then show him proper form. If he doesn't listen then, its his own fault. You cant cure stupidity

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris mason View Post
    I think it is ok to care about how others train.

    I agree the kid obviously doesn't know any better and probably thinks he is getting stronger by adding more and more weight even though his form is suffering.

    If you want to help, ask him why he does them that way. Listen to what he says. Then say, that is interesting, I had always heard that a full ROM and controlled movement were better for muscular development. Don't say more. Don't say it in a condescending tone. Just make it conversational. You have now planted the seed in his head. He may even ask you for more advice.
    Couldn't have said it better. I started off lifting without knowing WTH I was doing and I didn't waste a year but I didn't make the most of it either. I only worked out my upper body and didn't eat nearly enough food.

    I would just tell the kid in some way. I hate giving out advice as well because most poeple don't take it or only lift for like two months and quit. This guys been at it for a year so he obviously has more motivation then a lot of the lazy over weight a-holes I see at my job(I swear some of these poeple have eaten out every single day for over a year). Maybe he just needs to be educated a bit on what to do. I had no one but I was an IT nerd so I started googling and found wannebebig. This guy might not use the internet beyond going to his favorite porn site.

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    It looks to me like he is trying to run before he can walk. He needs to get a lot stronger before he can do pullups with a 45 pound plate.

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    Man I see stuff like this everyday.. I just shake my head, laugh and move on. Some people just like wasting their time
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    What I don't get is how gravity goes SIDEWAYS in your gym. That's gotta be hell on squat days..
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    ComingUndone,

    HAHAH your name kinda suits you in this situation. Well Like someone already stated earlier, people go to the gym and lift with there egos. My best advice is just keep it moving until they ask you for help or for your opinion. Just keep get bigger and stronger and Ive found people will draw to that and then ask you questions. Thanks when you drop knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FearFactory View Post
    Looks like just your average ego lifter to me. Why give any advice at all? Just go about your workout and ignore it.
    Quote Originally Posted by mickles View Post
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    Why do you care so much about what he is doing?
    Well like I said, I do just ignore it and go about my workout. Still though, I find it interesting to observe others in the gym, and felt the need to muse about some of the gym silliness I see from time to time in this thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by chris mason View Post
    I think it is ok to care about how others train.

    I agree the kid obviously doesn't know any better and probably thinks he is getting stronger by adding more and more weight even though his form is suffering.

    If you want to help, ask him why he does them that way. Listen to what he says. Then say, that is interesting, I had always heard that a full ROM and controlled movement were better for muscular development. Don't say more. Don't say it in a condescending tone. Just make it conversational. You have now planted the seed in his head. He may even ask you for more advice.
    Good advice! Maybe I will try to start a casual conversation with this guy sometime, and drop a hint that he could benefit from better form.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bosch232 View Post
    What I don't get is how gravity goes SIDEWAYS in your gym. That's gotta be hell on squat days..
    Hahaha.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Bryduck View Post
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    HAHAH your name kinda suits you in this situation.
    Ha, yeah, this username comes from the KoRn song of the same name. It was a popular song when I created this account and I thought it sounded cool. Still one of my favorite songs to listen to while I work out.

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    That hilarious! Great Vid!

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    Every body is just hating cuz that dude is soooo huge. I bet he can load up 4 plates on the bench and have him and his 3 friends move it 7 centimeters.
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    Where's the video?

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    Hey guys, lets get back on topic.

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    This is almost as bad as the 90 year old asian man who was doing bodyweight calf raises inside the squat rack the other day at my gym.

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