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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Routine for the older generation?

    OK so my dad want's to work out. He's in his late 50s, a bit hefty, and not the most active person. I tell him great! I have the perfect routine, it's a simple full body workout and we'll start with light weights.

    A:
    Squat
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    Bench

    B:
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    Pull-ups
    Overhead press

    "Nope, I can't do squats my knee is shot. Oh, deadlifts? Sometimes my back acts up."

    Ever work out with someone like that? Are there any substitutions you'd recommend? I have a rack and free weights. No machines except for an elliptical is is apparently easy on his knee.

    Do you think the elliptical is fine for lower body and we just focus weights on his upper?

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    The elliptical will do jack shit for his lower body as far as muscle goes. If possible, go to a local gym and get some more options for him. Isolation machines and other things.
    Bench: 315x3
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    I have been finding box squats to be really nice on my knees.
    First Bulk pics VS Starting pics, take a look!! http://www.wannabebigforums.com/show...=1#post1616109

    Progress pics of a cut using bodyweight only movements http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/sho...45#post2405745

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    I like the routine, nice and simple. Keep squatting and deadlifting. If form is proper his knees wont hurt while squatting, and if his back acts up during deads its because of lack of use- start sloe and light to build a base and the back will stop actin up after a few months. Or those excuses could just be B.S. because squats and deads are work - call him out.

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    Thanks for the suggestions!

    He's had surgery on his knee before so that is legitimately torn up. I've never really seen him beat up about his back, though. Maybe just needs some mobility stretches and some strengthening.

    We'll probably take it easy and play it by ear. I don't want to be responsible for injuring my dad!! He's not as young as I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhxdB View Post
    Thanks for the suggestions!

    He's had surgery on his knee before so that is legitimately torn up. I've never really seen him beat up about his back, though. Maybe just needs some mobility stretches and some strengthening.

    We'll probably take it easy and play it by ear. I don't want to be responsible for injuring my dad!! He's not as young as I am.
    My girlfriend also had knee surgery and it bothered her when she did squats. She switched to box squats and hasnt had an issue since.
    First Bulk pics VS Starting pics, take a look!! http://www.wannabebigforums.com/show...=1#post1616109

    Progress pics of a cut using bodyweight only movements http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/sho...45#post2405745

    Generally, if you read a piece of advice on the internet, assume it's wrong until proven otherwise. This applies especially to "conventional wisdom". -Belial

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    I had him do some box squats today and they seemed to work great.

    He has some flexibility issues with his shoulders so he had trouble getting the bar in position. We just went with body weight to start off and we're going from there!

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    PROPERLY performed box squats are very easy on the knees. Both of my knees have been significantly damaged and I can box squat heavily regularly. As for the balance, back pain is really just back weakness in many, many cases. If you start him light and force him to use perfect form he will strengthen the spinal erectors and supporting tissues and his back pain will become a thing of the past. Guaranteed.


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