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    Is Cardio Necessary.. ? Opinions?

    I am going back to the basics with all forms of bodybuilding. Training and diet especially though a push/pull/legs split and a clean bodybuilding diet.

    What do you guys think about cardio? I am trying to lose some fat still but I cant decide if I need cardio or not. I am thinking maybe just on rest days to burn some extra calories?

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    depends on your body type. If you like to hold fat, then a lil cardio may do the love handles good.
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    Save cardio as a last resort kinda thing. I'm sure i've told you this before.

    Get your diet in order first, then pull out the cardio card when you need it.

    Unless, of course, you actually want to get better at cardio.
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    i disagree, i think you should do cardio, why wouldnt you work out your heart???

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    I say no to cardio. But I guess it depends on what you want to do.
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    I think I am just going to do a little cardio on my rest days.

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    Originally posted by TripleP
    i disagree, i think you should do cardio, why wouldnt you work out your heart???
    Heavy squats make my heart ask me to stop.
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    But heavy squats don't give your heart any sort of endurance.
    I don't think cardio is NECESSARY, like someone said above, get everything else in order and if you need an extra little bump, do some.
    I like doing it purely because I can eat more.
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    Originally posted by TryingToBeBig
    But heavy squats don't give your heart any sort of endurance.
    lol, your heart has been beating since you were born (and even before then).

    It's never stopped yet.

    How's that for endurance?
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    I've been considering doin some cardio but I am still a bit hesitant, I've put on a good 20lbs since I first came to wbb this past Feb. I'll probably start doin a bit of cardio after I gain another 10lbs, just to keep me from becoming a complete fat slob.
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    Originally posted by Manveet
    I've been considering doin some cardio but I am still a bit hesitant, I've put on a good 20lbs since I first came to wbb this past Feb. I'll probably start doin a bit of cardio after I gain another 10lbs, just to keep me from becoming a complete fat slob.
    Remember, you can only gain (at most) 1 or 2lbs of muscle a week, anymore than that and you will become Fat Bastard.

    Also, C. Daddy mentioned squats for working out your heart, you can go a step further than that and go ride a rollercoaster, which will get your heart beating 160 times a minute.

    Hows that for a workout?

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    Diet and lifting are the most critical. Cardio is not necessary to get ripped but can help so long as training and diet is right. Cardio on non-lifting days seems like a good idea as it can serve to help recovery. Cardio at high intensity improves the hearts ability to pump blood and burns calories at a higher rate. Cardio at lower intensity for longer periods of time work type 1 fibers (endurance). With that in mind, I'd like to say I hate cardio and dont do it, ha.

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    I think you should do some cardio. I'm on a bulk at the moment and have stopped cardio for about 2 months and my resting heart rate has risen nearly 20 bpm. And heart rate is a good guide to fitness. I"m a bit of a freak with a resting heart rate of 34, but it is usually in the low 40's, checked yesterday and I was at 59 to 60. So I'm starting back doing cardio this week, want to feel fit again.

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    Let me refraze what I last said. Squats don't give your heart any endurance under stress. Cardio does, I'm not all for it, I just don't see how so many people can deny that's it's good for your heart and shouldn't be completely neglected.
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    I like to jog at least once a week, but that's just cuz I get bored sometimes, lol.
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    does cardio(jogging/running) ever lead to muscle wasteing?

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    Originally posted by alwayz
    does cardio(jogging/running) ever lead to muscle wasteing?
    yes, Sir, it sure does - especially when you do it for over an hour.
    Remember, you can overtrain by doing cardio just like you can working out.

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    Does anyone know what sort of ratio of fat to muscle to food in your system the average person burns while doing cardio?
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    cardio helps.
    but you can do well with out it.
    my exprience - joined gym 10 years ago, 6 1/2 years hard weight training exprience.

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    Originally posted by TryingToBeBig
    Does anyone know what sort of ratio of fat to muscle to food in your system the average person burns while doing cardio?
    I don't know but i also have a question:

    How many atoms of 235U must undergo fission to operate a 1.0 X 10(to the 3rd) MW power plant for one day if the conversion efficiency is 30.0 percent? Assume 208 MeV released per fission event.

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    Originally posted by Kayak_boy
    I think you should do some cardio. I'm on a bulk at the moment and have stopped cardio for about 2 months and my resting heart rate has risen nearly 20 bpm. And heart rate is a good guide to fitness. I"m a bit of a freak with a resting heart rate of 34, but it is usually in the low 40's, checked yesterday and I was at 59 to 60. So I'm starting back doing cardio this week, want to feel fit again.
    If your heart rate spikes more than 10-15%, it could be a sign of overtraining...your body working hard to repair itself. Or you could be coming down with something and your immune system is on high gear.

    My trainer requires me to check my resting heart rate every morning as one monitor of overtraining...it has been most educational.

    And oh, I liek cardio

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    Originally posted by IceRgrrl


    If your heart rate spikes more than 10-15%, it could be a sign of overtraining...your body working hard to repair itself. Or you could be coming down with something and your immune system is on high gear.

    My trainer requires me to check my resting heart rate every morning as one monitor of overtraining...it has been most educational.

    And oh, I liek cardio
    You are very correct in saying that your heart rate being elevated can be a sign of overtraining, lack of recovery from a previous session, illness etc, but if it rises over the period of a few months then it is a good sign of where you are at fitness wise. I know I'm not aerobically fit at the moment and my heart rate shows that.

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    Originally posted by TripleP


    I don't know but i also have a question:

    How many atoms of 235U must undergo fission to operate a 1.0 X 10(to the 3rd) MW power plant for one day if the conversion efficiency is 30.0 percent? Assume 208 MeV released per fission event.
    Fission doesn't even approach a 30% conversion efficiency.
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    I don't know but i also have a question:
    How many atoms of 235U must undergo fission to operate a 1.0 X 10(to the 3rd) MW power plant for one day if the conversion efficiency is 30.0 percent? Assume 208 MeV released per fission event.
    It was Just a question, afterall there ARE a lot of smart people on this board.
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    Originally posted by TryingToBeBig


    It was Just a question, afterall there ARE a lot of smart people on this board.
    like PowerMan

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